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All-in EV graph question

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:40 pm
by riverwalker
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I just noticed this graph in PokerTracker, and I'm curious how to make sense of it. Does this graph show results for all-in preflop hands? If not, what hands are used for this graphing? The way I'm reading it is that I running well under expected? Can someone please explain what I'm reading? A link to a page here that shows info would be great! I haven't been able to find one.

Thank you,
rw

Re: All-in EV graph question

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:42 pm
by WhiteRider
The gold line is how you would have performed if you'd won your equity at the point you got all in, rather than what you actually won. For non-allin hands it follows the actual amount won.
So yes, here you're under expectation. Bear in mind, though, that for tournament chips one hand at the end of a tournament may only be a few BB but a large number of chips and could skew your EV graph wildly.

Re: All-in EV graph question

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:36 pm
by riverwalker
Thanks for your help.....I've been running running crap for a while, just trying to make some sense of it all. Can I ask you this... if this was your chart with the 70K + in tourney hands graphed, what might learn from it? Is this a typical reading when someone is running sour?

Thanks again,
rw

Re: All-in EV graph question

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:19 am
by WhiteRider
I don't play a lot of tournaments myself, and I don't use the EV graph much either, so I can't really give you a full answer, but it does look as if you've been unlucky. You might want to switch to viewing the graph by BB instead of chips so that hands at the end of tournaments don't overwhelm everything else.
You can also use Filters to isolate the all-in hands (Actions or Facing tabs) and look at what actually happened in the hands. You could use other filters to identify different types of situations to analyse separately.

Re: All-in EV graph question

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:37 pm
by riverwalker
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I think this is what you're talking about as far as BB's...right? It looks better than -NEG, but still under expected if I'm reading it right? I'll tweek with the filters, and see If I can learn how to use this portion of the software correctly. Thanks for all your help!

Re: All-in EV graph question

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:08 pm
by WhiteRider
Yes, you're still under expectation, but it looks as if it was a small number of hands with a large swing since the graphs generally follow each other except for the couple of different spikes about 1/3 of the way in.