Donk bet definition

[kraada]

I'm certain in that case the call is what is keeping it from being a cbet, even though it reaches the cap and you thus can't raise. This is going to be somewhat necessary because in cap you could have two players with cbet opportunities then (A opens and B caps preflop).

Perhaps a more accurate way of stating it was:
every action must be either bet or raise.

[pasita]

Yeah, I see how it's not a contbet. Also it's not a probe or a float, it should clearly be a donk imo... I'm betting OOP to the last aggressor of the previous street.

[BillGatesIII]

I think I do like a definition that takes the last aggressor into account instead of the preflop aggressor.

Hmmm...

How do you want to call this type of bet?

Preflop
Button opens, BB calls

Flop
BB checks, Button cbets, BB raises, Button calls

Turn
BB bets

At the moment, this is defined as a turn donk bet (betting into the preflop aggressor). And I don't think you can call it a cbet (because the button did cbet the flop).

[pasita]

That can't be a turn donk as BB didn't call a bet on the previous street.

[Longchamp]

In my opinion, the definitions of both donk and Continiuation bets should disregard any action besides previous street.

Donk bet: Leading OOP into last aggressor from previous street regardless of earlier action in the hand. In my example, husuris donkbets since I have the bettinginitiative with my flop raise.

CBet: Betting with the betting initiative from previous street, regardless of earlier action in the hand. In my example, if husuris checks turn and I bet, I would make a CBet since I am following up on my flopraise.


I think that would be very simple definitions since you only have to take 1 earlier street into account and not the whole hand.


I rarely play FL, but I see the problem Pasita mentions in capped streets. I would say, after a capped street, both(or all) players should be able to make a CBet, and none should be able to make a donk bet ?

[pasita]

I rarely play FL, but I see the problem Pasita mentions in capped streets. I would say, after a capped street, both(or all) players should be able to make a CBet, and none should be able to make a donk bet ?

I don't think it's a problem as such, just pointed it out as it didn't fit kraada's definition and wanted to know whether the definition or implementation was wrong.

What is a problem, though, is that if I 3! pre and face a cap and then lead out on the flop -> is not a donk bet according to PT.