Stats (vpip/pfr etc) calculating wrong?

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Stats (vpip/pfr etc) calculating wrong?

Postby ivaB1 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:22 pm

Since i installed pt4 i noticed that sometimes i see players with pfr > vpip. Thats pretty rare like 2-3 players during 6-8 hours mtt session.
That bugs me and make me thinking that other stats might be wrong too. Am i missing something?

Also unsure if it should be in mac sub forum
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Re: Stats (vpip/pfr etc) calculating wrong?

Postby WhiteRider » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:23 am

If you face a raise for more chips than you have then you have an opportunity to VPIP but not to PFR - this can lead to having a higher PFR stat value value than VPIP.
Imagine you fold when facing a raise like this, and then in the next hand you open raise. Your stats are now:
VPIP = 50% (1/2)
PFR = 100% (1/1)
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Re: Stats (vpip/pfr etc) calculating wrong?

Postby ivaB1 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:48 am

Oh i see.

Thanks
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Re: Stats (vpip/pfr etc) calculating wrong?

Postby stuart_gall » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:54 pm

There maybe another reason. At least this happened in PT3 quite a lot.
VPIP is the % of hands that you put money in
PTR is % of preflop actions that are raises.

Hand 1
Player raises, gets 3bet, 4 bets.

Hand 2
Player folds

2 Hands 3 preflop actions
VPIP = 1/2 = 50 %
PTR = 2/3 = 66%
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Re: Stats (vpip/pfr etc) calculating wrong?

Postby kraada » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:17 am

No, that is not how it calculates in PT3 or PT4. You can only VPIP or PFR once per hand.

In PT3, VPIP is the # of hands you put money in / # of hands dealt. In PT4 it's the # of hands you put money in / # of hands you could put money in (which is all hands minus walks).
In PT3 PFR is the # of hands you raised in preflop at any point / # of hands dealt. In PT4 it's the # of hands you raised in preflop at any point / # of hands you could raise in preflop (so it excludes walks and open shoves).
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