Application: HoldemLuck/TourneyLuck v0.20 (Updated:2/28/10)

[Peesocake]

Hello,

I don't understand the following: (and sorry if it has already been discussed, but the thread is pretty long)

The program calculates the expected winnings as your equity on the street where all the money goes in, over the whole pot. Right?

It doesn't consider pots that went to showdown if all players have money behind, so it ignores a pot where you checkcall TPTK, and villain shows a backdoored flush.(if villain pushed allin on the river and you called, you would actually have a 0% equity share on the total pot, not just over the river bet, right? That is strange no?)

[kraada]

Yes, you've got it.

So it does have the strange effect of having hands where you (say) have AA vs KK, get all but 1bb in preflop, get the last bb in on the flop where he has a set making it look like you are expected to lose quite a lot.

[Peesocake]

Ok, so it's pretty useless. Even the allin hands are not properly accounted for (your example of AA vs KK with 1bb behind). Let alone all the pots that went to showdown, let alone the pots that didn't.
Your red line might be negative, forcing you to think you are 'unlucky', that you're sortta due 10bi, but then again, maybe you're lucky in other hands that are not accounted for, such as rivering a 2P, getting more than your fair share of incoming draws etc.

I already see way too many people on other forums complaining they run bad by showing these evgraphs. It's all pretty misleading. It is a good thing.

[72shove]

Ok, so it's pretty useless. Even the allin hands are not properly accounted for (your example of AA vs KK with 1bb behind). Let alone all the pots that went to showdown, let alone the pots that didn't.
Your red line might be negative, forcing you to think you are 'unlucky', that you're sortta due 10bi, but then again, maybe you're lucky in other hands that are not accounted for, such as rivering a 2P, getting more than your fair share of incoming draws etc.

I already see way too many people on other forums complaining they run bad by showing these evgraphs. It's all pretty misleading. It is a good thing.

You're correct in saying the program doesn't capture all luck, whether good or bad, but the conclusion you draw from that is very flawed.

You can either have no information on luck without the program, or some information about luck with the program. So explain to me how more information leads to worse conclusions, which is the argument you seem to be making ?

[msutter]

Hi,

can someone please post a working download link?

Thank you!

[alonalbert]

New build fixes a multi pot calculation error.

HoldemLuck 0.20

[kraada]

First post updated for you

[alonalbert]

First post updated for you

Thanks. I hope the Google link works better that Megaupload and Rapidshare

[nsemenoff]

Code: Select all

Exception while processing hand 23783. Exception:
System.DllNotFoundException: Unable to load DLL 'PokerEvalDll.dll': Приложение не было запущено, поскольку оно некорректно настроено. Повторная установка приложения может решить данную проблему. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x800736B1)
   at PokerEval.HandEvaluator.EvalHand(Int32 numPlayers, String[] pockets, String board, String dead, Int32[] won, Int32[] lost, Int32[] tied)
   at PotCalculator.Pot..ctor(Player hero, Decimal invested, Decimal money, String boardBefore, String boardAfter, String deadCards, List`1 players) in Q:\PotCalculator\Pot.cs:line 83
   at PotCalculator.Hand.CreatePots(IRakeCalculator rakeCalculator, Decimal cap) in Q:\PotCalculator\Hand.cs:line 187
   at PotCalculator.Hand..ctor(Int32 id, DateTime datePlayed, Int32 heroId, String flop, String turn, String river, Decimal cap, IRakeCalculator rakeCalculator, IEnumerable`1 players) in Q:\PotCalculator\Hand.cs:line 85
   at PotCalculator.Hand..ctor(Int32 handId, DateTime datePlayed, Int32 heroId, String flop, String turn, String river, IEnumerable`1 players) in Q:\PotCalculator\Hand.cs:line 68
   at TourneyLuck.PotFinderForm.ProcessHand(Int32 handId, DateTime datePlayed, Decimal[] structure, Int32 heroId, String flop, String turn, String river, IList`1 players) in Q:\SngLuck\PotFinderForm.cs:line 212
Hand History:

Приложение не было запущено, поскольку оно некорректно настроено. Повторная установка приложения может решить данную проблему means Application was not run because it is incorrectly configured. Reinstalling the application may solve this problem

[Masaa]

after update turnament luck on all hand i have error