Bug in report with raised first in - BB statistic

[Veinos]

Hi,
I was playing around making my first report and saw something that is not correct I believe.
I made a report for every players, then added raised first in stats by position. I play on party poker fastforward tables, 6 max.
In the report tab, it shows my raised first in from BB to be 33.33% (which seemed wrong) so I went to add that same stat to the report in the Statistic tab (running the exact same filter) and it shows at 45.15% over there.

In the My report section, it shows no stats at all for 99% of the players on the site for the raised first in from BB, so there is clearly something wrong.

FWIW, RFI from bb shows the same overall result from RFI EP2 (it might just be a coincidence)

[kraada]

You shouldn't ever have a chance to raise first in in the big blind. If you filter to those situations via More Filters what is the action in the hands you see?

[Veinos]

Ok, so raise first in can't exist if someone limped or completed the sb !? Or maybe if there is a straddle on the table...
I just realized those stats are custom made, I downloaded those a while back... and the description mention it is regardless of limpers.

is there a stat existing that shows opening % from position? or I should investigate deeper into that custom stat to find the problem??
Well, I know positional RFI shows on the hud pop up already, but I can't seem to find one to add to the report !?

Maybe I should state what my goal is here. I wanted to run a report on every players and see their open raise % from every position.

[WhiteRider]

By definition an "open" raise can only be made when no-one else has yet entered the pot, so it could be a problem in that custom stat. If you got it from the Download Warehouse can you tell us the exact name so that we can verify it?

To see positional stats in reports you would normally use one of the "by position" reports, but if you want to see it for all players at once you can't do that. You could add the "Position" stat to your All Players report, but that would split it up to a separate line for each position for each player - that will work but it will make your report pretty big.

Otherwise you will need a custom stat to achieve what you want. This tutorial was written for PT3 but it explains how to make a positional version of a stat and the principal is the same in PT4.

Custom Stats Guide

[Veinos]

Hello,

I did download the custom stats from the warehouse. It is : Full Ring RFI w/ All 9 Positions by A Null Sects Jan. 13, 2011

Having one column per position stat is what I have done so far, and it is what I wanted to do as the last row gives the average. It seems to be working, except for the BB.

Raised First in - BB is defined as

(cnt_p_raise_first_in_pos8 / cnt_p_open_opp_pos8) * 100

where

cnt_p_raise_first_in_pos8 = sum( if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise AND cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_open_opp AND cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 8, 1, 0])

and

cnt_p_open_opp_pos8 = sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_open_opp AND cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 8, 1, 0])

Hope this helps clarifying a little

I'll try to join a screen shot of what I have so far

[kraada]

Filter for being in the big blind and then you can sort by that column by clicking on the header -- with the summary row of 20 you should find someone who has a value there. I'm very curious to see what happened there because the stat looks fine but it should never return data.

[Veinos]

It only returns one hands from me, so it almost always returned nothing...
Here is the raw history

***** Hand History for Game 13292050005 *****
$0.01/$0.02 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 22, 12:49:57 EDT 2013
Table Signapore (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5/6
Seat 5: NTUPokerStar ( $3.93 USD )
Seat 6: Veinos ( $1 USD )
Seat 2: WHIPPIT_BABE ( $0.60 USD )
Seat 3: roger_jolly ( $5.40 USD )
Seat 4: x_Reaper58 ( $2 USD )
NTUPokerStar posts small blind [$0.01 USD].
Veinos posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
WHIPPIT_BABE posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Veinos [ Ad 9s ]
WHIPPIT_BABE checks
roger_jolly folds
NTUPokerStar folds
Veinos raises [$0.06 USD]
WHIPPIT_BABE calls [$0.06 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, 3c, 2d ]
Veinos bets [$0.09 USD]
WHIPPIT_BABE folds
Veinos does not show cards.
Veinos wins $0.26 USD
Game #13292050946 starts.

here is another hand that showed RFI from the bb, again with a posted blind out of turn

***** Hand History for Game 12100544206 *****
$2 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, September 12, 20:54:23 EDT 2012
Table L'Aldosa (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5/9
Seat 8: DennyGun ( $2 USD )
Seat 3: Dlgerhard ( $2.27 USD )
Seat 6: Veinos ( $3.21 USD )
Seat 7: caneixa ( $2 USD )
Seat 1: georgio2011 ( $2.29 USD )
georgio2011 posts small blind [$0.01 USD].
Dlgerhard posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
caneixa posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Veinos [ 7s 2s ]
Veinos folds
caneixa checks
DennyGun folds
georgio2011 folds
Dlgerhard raises [$0.06 USD]
caneixa calls [$0.06 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 2c, 3c ]
Dlgerhard checks
caneixa checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
Dlgerhard bets [$0.11 USD]
caneixa calls [$0.11 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
Dlgerhard checks
caneixa checks
Dlgerhard shows [ 5c, 5h ]a pair of Fives.
caneixa doesn't show [ 4c, 4h ]a pair of Fours.
Dlgerhard wins $0.38 USD from the main pot with a pair of Fives.
DennyGun has left the table.
Game #12100545186 starts.

[WhiteRider]

Thanks for confirming. That is expected behaviour, and was confirmed with the development team some time last year. Raised First In counts any time you have the opportunity to be the first player to VOLUNTARILY put money in the pot.