Application: HoldemLuck/TourneyLuck v0.20 (Updated:2/28/10)

[tvta]

Any chances ho include equity for each street? Many times the opponents catch a lucky card and outdrawn us when we put all in the center... So we played well, but your program tells us the opposite

agreed. these programs can only go so far as to really tell you how bad you are running.



also I am having a problem with some of these calcs:

I had a hand where me and another player had AA vs KK pre. We were ~800 deep at 2/4 for a total pot of $1659, our equity is 81.9% but our expected win is only $531.48. My win was $831, and that times 0.819 is $680.59. What am I missing here?

I also have another hand where I am 465$ deep with KK vs AQs. My expected win is calculated as $171.71; there is no way this number is correct.

[alonalbert]

I had a hand where me and another player had AA vs KK pre. We were ~800 deep at 2/4 for a total pot of $1659, our equity is 81.9% but our expected win is only $531.48. My win was $831, and that times 0.819 is $680.59. What am I missing here?

You didn't post exact numbers so I'll approximate:
You invested $800 in a $1600 pot and had 80% equity right? 80% of $1600 is $1280 which is your expected win but to calculate your expected profit you need to subtract your investment in the pot, in this case, $800 so $1280 - $800 = $480.

As for multi street EV, I have no plans to add that.

[tvta]

I had a hand where me and another player had AA vs KK pre. We were ~800 deep at 2/4 for a total pot of $1659, our equity is 81.9% but our expected win is only $531.48. My win was $831, and that times 0.819 is $680.59. What am I missing here?

You didn't post exact numbers so I'll approximate:
You invested $800 in a $1600 pot and had 80% equity right? 80% of $1600 is $1280 which is your expected win but to calculate your expected profit you need to subtract your investment in the pot, in this case, $800 so $1280 - $800 = $480.

As for multi street EV, I have no plans to add that.

Ok what you said makes sense, and yes these are allin pre so no multistreet. But I still dont understand how my expected wins are so small. I find it hard to believe that in my other example, AQs vs KK pre with 70% equity with 465$ effective stacks, my expected win is less than 200$.


EDIT: NVM Im getting these calcs now. What I did is just 456(0.684)-465(1-0.684), which equals the expected value in the program. I guess I under appreciate just not getting sucked out on.

[alonalbert]

I guess I under appreciate just not getting sucked out on.

Exactly, not getting sucked out on is also "Running Good".

[merkur33]

First, let me say that your app is awsome, i liked it very much, and i find it extremly helpful, because i can find these hands where i lucked bad on someone, which i tend to forget otherwise...

But, after i updated to v. 0.13, it didn't work for me annymore. I too had the "numerous invalid pot size"-bug, tried to recalculate hands, didn't help. maybe the problem was, i overslept some verisons, and updated directly from 0.10 (or something like that) to 0.13. Now im using 0.12, and it works again.

I wanted to suggest to add a graph alone for equity. Because i also want to see, where i let myself to get drawn in unprofitable allins, and where i can avoid it... I can judge this, to a degree, with the "expected" graph, but this is not so objective because of the defferent pot sizes (i play tourney mostly)

[Baalim]

The application failed to initialize properly. click OK to terminate the application.


im on WindowsXP, i have PT3 postgres, wtf is gong on?

[Nime]

anyone know what's this problem?



this version won't work on my xp

[denile]

anyone know what's this problem?

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this version won't work on my xp

It seems the same bug I have encountered.

See here for details.

I'm still stuck for that bug and I couldn't find the configuration files untill now.

[buddry]

I am not understanding what the ICM line means exactly. I looked through all the posts but did not find anything. Sorry if it has already been explained elsewhere.

Thanks.

[paschl]

Hello,

One more time thanks for the application, its nice to know how are you running

im trying version 0.13, but when the application is finding new pots at start i got like 200 errors (so far) like this "Exception while processing hand 558425. See log for details"

LOG
Exception while processing hand 68127. Exception:
Npgsql.NpgsqlException:
INSERT has more expressions than target columns
Severity: ERROR
Code: 42601
at Npgsql.NpgsqlState.<ProcessBackendResponses_Ver_3>d__a.MoveNext()
at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.GetNextResponseObject()
at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.GetNextRowDescription()
at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.NextResult()
at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader..ctor(IEnumerable`1 dataEnumeration, CommandBehavior behavior, NpgsqlCommand command, NotificationThreadBlock threadBlock, Boolean synchOnReadError)
at Npgsql.NpgsqlCommand.GetReader(CommandBehavior cb)
at Npgsql.NpgsqlCommand.ExecuteNonQuery()
at Common.PGDataManager.ExecuteNonQuery(String format, Object[] args) in C:\Projects\Common\PGDataManager.cs:line 64
at TourneyLuck.PotFinderForm.ProcessHand(Int32 handId, DateTime datePlayed, Decimal[] structure, Int32 heroId, String flop, String turn, String river, IList`1 players) in C:\Projects\SngLuck\PotFinderForm.cs:line 251
Hand History:

By the way, whats your name in PS, so i can send some $$$ (not much, but something)

im getting the same errors i guess.
my whole log file is full of this:

Code: Select all

Exception while processing hand 1090. Exception:
Npgsql.NpgsqlException:
INSERT has more expressions than target columns
Severity: ERROR
Code: 42601
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlState.<ProcessBackendResponses_Ver_3>d__a.MoveNext()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.GetNextResponseObject()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.GetNextRowDescription()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.NextResult()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader..ctor(IEnumerable`1 dataEnumeration, CommandBehavior behavior, NpgsqlCommand command, NotificationThreadBlock threadBlock, Boolean synchOnReadError)
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlCommand.GetReader(CommandBehavior cb)
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlCommand.ExecuteNonQuery()
   at Common.PGDataManager.ExecuteNonQuery(String format, Object[] args) in C:\Projects\Common\PGDataManager.cs:line 64
   at TourneyLuck.PotFinderForm.ProcessHand(Int32 handId, DateTime datePlayed, Decimal[] structure, Int32 heroId, String flop, String turn, String river, IList`1 players) in C:\Projects\SngLuck\PotFinderForm.cs:line 251
Hand History:

Exception while processing hand 1097. Exception:
Npgsql.NpgsqlException:
INSERT has more expressions than target columns
Severity: ERROR
Code: 42601
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlState.<ProcessBackendResponses_Ver_3>d__a.MoveNext()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.GetNextResponseObject()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.GetNextRowDescription()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.NextResult()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader..ctor(IEnumerable`1 dataEnumeration, CommandBehavior behavior, NpgsqlCommand command, NotificationThreadBlock threadBlock, Boolean synchOnReadError)
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlCommand.GetReader(CommandBehavior cb)
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlCommand.ExecuteNonQuery()
   at Common.PGDataManager.ExecuteNonQuery(String format, Object[] args) in C:\Projects\Common\PGDataManager.cs:line 64
   at TourneyLuck.PotFinderForm.ProcessHand(Int32 handId, DateTime datePlayed, Decimal[] structure, Int32 heroId, String flop, String turn, String river, IList`1 players) in C:\Projects\SngLuck\PotFinderForm.cs:line 251
Hand History:

Exception while processing hand 1106. Exception:
Npgsql.NpgsqlException:
INSERT has more expressions than target columns
Severity: ERROR
Code: 42601
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlState.<ProcessBackendResponses_Ver_3>d__a.MoveNext()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.GetNextResponseObject()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.GetNextRowDescription()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader.NextResult()
   at Npgsql.ForwardsOnlyDataReader..ctor(IEnumerable`1 dataEnumeration, CommandBehavior behavior, NpgsqlCommand command, NotificationThreadBlock threadBlock, Boolean synchOnReadError)
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlCommand.GetReader(CommandBehavior cb)
   at Npgsql.NpgsqlCommand.ExecuteNonQuery()
   at Common.PGDataManager.ExecuteNonQuery(String format, Object[] args) in C:\Projects\Common\PGDataManager.cs:line 64
   at TourneyLuck.PotFinderForm.ProcessHand(Int32 handId, DateTime datePlayed, Decimal[] structure, Int32 heroId, String flop, String turn, String river, IList`1 players) in C:\Projects\SngLuck\PotFinderForm.cs:line 251
Hand History:


then after much clicking no graph appears.
but thanks for the app and the option to select different colors