Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby kraada » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:36 am

In the FAQ also; the biggest change from the original tournament version to this one is the reorganized Postflop popup. If you like the old popup or don't particularly feel like changing, don't worry about it. If you want to give the newer version a try, all you need to do is import the .pt3hud if you have the other one working. No other stats are needed.
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby BillyTheBull » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:52 pm

Forgive me if I missed it somewhere, kraada, but is there a chart or a legend or something like that where you explain the colors? It's great that all these stats are colored by some other stat, but unfortunately I find that I those secondary stats are nowhere to be found on the HUD and/or popup, so unless I know what the colors mean, all those pretty little colored numbers are just sort of confusing me (i.e.: is a red # of hds a good thing or a bad thing, and what's a blue one compared to it, etc.???). I like how very compact the advanced HUD is for both cash and tourneys, but I've found I've been having to go back to my old, much clunkier, standard HUD because I just don't know yet where to find the stuff I need in the advanced one. . . .
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby WhiteRider » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:24 am

The colour ranges are all the same (i.e. 15% is always the same colour) apart from a couple of specific stats which are explained in the post. These colour ranges are explained in the thread too, but there is no "red is good" because "good" is different for different stats.
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby t3hnu7z » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:35 am

I also found the colours hard to learn, so when I built my cash HUD I went away from every 10% and went to 33%, making green, yellow, and red. These colours are easily identifiable for quick decisions, but less precise (obviously). I use the colours almost exclusively for folding information of my foes based on which bets are put to them and when. Green is someone I can more easily bluff, Yellow is middle road, and Red is someone I had better have a hand against if I decide to bet into them. Have fun with it and decide what will work best in your mind given your style of play.
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby WhiteRider » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:14 am

I agree with t3hnu7z - Kraada's HUD is a good starting point, or a good place to get some ideas, but if you build your own HUD or adapt his to your own needs then you will get much more out of it. You really need to understand what all the numbers and colours mean; and the only way you can really do that is if you built it yourself (or spent a lot of time familiarising yourself with it).
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby BillyTheBull » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:10 pm

WhiteRider wrote:The colour ranges are all the same (i.e. 15% is always the same colour) apart from a couple of specific stats which are explained in the post. These colour ranges are explained in the thread too, but there is no "red is good" because "good" is different for different stats.
Thanks . . . by now I have figured out that red is a small percentage vs blue being a large percentage . . . I just couldn't see the colors in their usual spots, and had to go into the "configure stats" to see how they were set up. And I'll make sure I re-read your post at least a couple more times . . . some of it definitely went over my head at first! :oops: :geek: I'll probably end up doing what the response below suggests and simplify it down to three or four colors, rather than 10, as I don't think I'll be able to distinguish, much less remember, all those subtle differences in the heat of the moment (especially with more than one or two tables going). Besides, my play is probably not going to change much from open-raising into someone that 3bets 15% vs 23% . . . but if it's 40%, or 70%, I'll want to know the difference. . . . Anyway, I may have said it before, but even if I have, I need to say it again: Thanks to kraada for all the work and time put into this indeed very advanced HUD, and especially for sharing it with everyone!!!

t3hnu7z wrote:I also found the colours hard to learn, so when I built my cash HUD I went away from every 10% and went to 33%, making green, yellow, and red. These colours are easily identifiable for quick decisions, but less precise (obviously). I use the colours almost exclusively for folding information of my foes based on which bets are put to them and when. Green is someone I can more easily bluff, Yellow is middle road, and Red is someone I had better have a hand against if I decide to bet into them. Have fun with it and decide what will work best in your mind given your style of play.
Great suggestion, thanks! I'll probably do something similar . . . now I'm wondering, though, if there's a quick way to adjust all color ranges like that, or did you have to go into every individual stat and change the ranges one-by-one? It'd be nice if I could just set up two "templates" -- one going from green-red and another going the opposite way -- and then just sort of cut & paste those into the affected stats. . . .

WhiteRider wrote:...if you build your own HUD or adapt his to your own needs then you will get much more out of it. You really need to understand what all the numbers and colours mean; and the only way you can really do that is if you built it yourself (or spent a lot of time familiarising yourself with it).
Of course, I knew I'd have to spend some time with it to learn it . . . at first I just wasn't sure if kraada had already built in some sort of "code" into the colors, and then my inability to find them in the HUD config (where I'd previously set up my own ranges) confused me some more . . . lol, I guess I'm just a PT3 noob :oops: , but I'm trying to do something about it! I currently play my cash games on "HUD-less" Cake, but I do play tourneys at other sites, and I know I'll eventually transition my cash play to either Full Tilt or Stars, but I need to get a good grip on the HUD before I can really jump in there and multitable.
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby t3hnu7z » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:23 pm

To change the colours, you will indeed have to go into each and every stat and modify it. There is no simple way to do this, but your hard work will have its own reward at the tables. :)
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby foldyhawn » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:39 pm

Thanks for the advanced HUD kraada. I do have one problem, the 3Bet preflop and fold to 4bet is not working. The stat is there, only the colors are missing in the stat and its not showing anything then X. Might be i'm never at a table where people 4bet :-). But as the colors are missing it mnight be wrong. Where are the color ranges defined? at the sta itself?
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby WhiteRider » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:49 pm

Yes, the colour ranges are defined in the custom stat, on the Statistics > Colors tab.
You probably don't have the stats which are used in the colouring imported - see the readme file and make sure you have imported all the stats.
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Re: Advanced Hud Config for Tourney's

Postby foldyhawn » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:06 pm

I imported all the stats, i now see something else than X, just no coloring. And what stat (name) is the color based?
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