Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby shahrad » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:06 pm

I had two requests for PT3:
1) Filter for effective SPR (availabale is effective stacksize).
2) Building stats for Nut Flushdraw and filter for Nut Flushdraw

Are they available in PT4?
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby shahrad » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:26 pm

As a PLO player who also uses NoteCaddy I hope that you guys will have a more accurate note taking system than NC. Does your note taking system differ between Nut 17 wrap and a non nut 13 wrap? A nut openender and a non nut openeder? A combo draw with Nut flush and a combo draw with weak flush? Top 2 + Nutopenender and Top 2 + Gutshot? Nut flushdraw + Gutshot and a bare Nutflushdraw? Bottom 2 + Nut openender and Top and bottom + openender.....etc.?
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby WhiteRider » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:01 am

Details of filters and notes haven't been finalized yet and the development team are taking all feedback into consideration so if there is anything else you'd like to see please keep the ideas coming.
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby shahrad » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:08 pm

My last post was not about filters but about the note taking system.
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby marvelage » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:36 am

Hi. There are some features that should be usefull:

1. The most imortant. Stats for villain just against me. For example, resteal when i raised from BTN. At least the opp to make a custom stat like that.

2. It would be great if every player will have flag "Reg". So I can do a custom stats only against regs. For example I want to know how much my villans raise cont bet against reg. Or it cant be usefull on preflop 3bet ranges. I think the filter in custom stats like flg_reg = 1 will be used almost in every custom stat. I think very powerfull will be the feature to check the villanin's certain stat when creating a custom stat. So, I can check how much my villain adjust his game agains certain type of player. For example, I want to know how player A adjusts his continuation bet frequency angainst regs who raise cb too often. So, I should write in custom stat - amt_villains_cb_raise > 20 AND flg_reg = 1.

3. The way to specify a position of the initial agressor in custom stats code. Now the only field is holdem_hand_player_detail.val_p_raise_aggressor_pos, but it returns just last raiser's position but initial.

4. The way to check villans effective stack. This feature will be used to exclude hands with shortstack players. Now there is no way to check the stack size of preflop 3bettor. But this feature will be much more usefull for short stack players).

5. Allow HUD to use cache in replayer mode. It is really boring to wait every single hand about 2-5 min untill HUD shows stats. I think the info about stats just for the moment you played is not so important instead of spent time.

I hope u understand that you have to add some principal features that are different from those that coming in HM2. These features should give some real advantage against HM2 regs like it was berofe HM2 implemented the custom stats in their HUD.

Thats all I mind right now. Sorry for my bad English.
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby WhiteRider » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:44 am

Thanks for your ideas - I will make sure the development team see them.

3. will be possible in PT4 - we have a new mechanism to allow us to get full detail about raise positions.
4. PT3 has an effective stack database field, called "holdem_hand_summary.amt_p_effective_stack" (and flop, turn and river versions by replacing _p_ with _f_, _t_ or _r_.
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby marvelage » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:02 am

WhiteRider wrote:Thanks for your ideas - I will make sure the development team see them.


4. PT3 has an effective stack database field, called "holdem_hand_summary.amt_p_effective_stack" (and flop, turn and river versions by replacing _p_ with _f_, _t_ or _r_.


For example, I am BTN with 100bb, SB reg with 100bb, BB fish with 50bb. I raise, reg 3bets, fish folds. holdem_hand_summary.amt_p_effective_stack = 50bb in this hand, but actually my effective stack against 3bettor is 100bb. So the filter holdem_hand_summary.amt_p_effective_stack > 100bb will exclude this hand. And I think It will exclude all hands where there is at least one short fish at the table. That is what i meant
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby kraada » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:45 am

There is no other way to realistically store this data - we only store data for effective stack in the hand based on the size of the lowest stack on any given street.
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby BlackPersian » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:03 pm

Hey,

HM2 beta is released. Where are you? Any news? ;)

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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby kraada » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:32 pm

We are still planning to have our Beta released before the end of September.
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