Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby WiSucht » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:15 pm

I want to offer you a few ideas:

1. Now there are a lot of equity calculators (PokerStove, etc.). All they are doing the same thing. But they do not have the next opportunity.
For example, I want to learn to hand XX (eg 67s):

On the flop, I will bring:
2 pair = ...%
Three of a kind = ...%
Straight = ...%
Flush = ...%
Full House = ...%
Flush-draw = ...%
Straight-draw = ...%
Gutshot = ...%
Top Pair = ...%
(2 pair OR Three of a kind OR Straight OR Flush OR Flush-draw OR Straight-draw) = ...%
etc.

The flop and turn, I will bring:
2 pair = ...%
Three of a kind = ...%
Straight = ...%
Flush = ...%
Full House = ...%
Flush-draw = ...%
Straight-draw = ...%
Gutshot = ...%
Top Pair = ...%
(2 pair OR Three of a kind OR Straight OR Flush OR Flush-draw OR Straight-draw) = ...%
etc.

Ie I want to know how many percent of my hand will get better on the flop (or on the flop and turn, or on the flop, turn and river). Small pair improves to Three of a kind on the flop to 12.5%! and 56s? 46s? 42o? AKs? QTo? etc.
If you add this feature in PT4, it will help many, and nowhere else such a program will not be.


2. Notes. I think that it is more convenient to use a multiline field for notes, rather than sorting them by date (if someone is needed to add the date, we can click on the button "Date", which will add the date to the current cursor position). If the player a lot of notes, they must be organized, but now can not be done (they are sorted only by date, and you can not swap them).

3. Please add the possibility of pop-up windows when you hover on a particular stat. As in HM, just with the flowers in the style of PokerTracker. I think so many will be more convenient (you can conduct a survey). When many of their own stats, it is convenient to break up into small popup window and display when you hover on a particular stat. This is a very important change! I think that if you do, you will PT4 unequivocal leader in the market!

Теперь на русском :)
Я хочу предложить Вам несколько идей:

1. Сейчас существует много эквити калькуляторов (PokerStove и др.). Все они делают одно и тоже. Но в них нет следующей возможности.
Например, я хочу узнать для руки XX (например 67s):

На флопе я соберу:
2 pair = ...%
Three of a kind = ...%
Straight = ...%
Flush = ...%
Full House = ...%
Flush-draw = ...%
Straight-draw = ...%
Gutshot = ...%
Top Pair = ...%
(2 pair OR Three of a kind OR Straight OR Flush OR Flush-draw OR Straight-draw) = ...%
etc.

На флопе и терне я соберу:
2 pair = ...%
Three of a kind = ...%
Straight = ...%
Flush = ...%
Full House = ...%
Flush-draw = ...%
Straight-draw = ...%
Gutshot = ...%
Top Pair = ...%
(2 pair OR Three of a kind OR Straight OR Flush OR Flush-draw OR Straight-draw) = ...%
etc.

Т.е. я хочу знать, в скольких процентах моя рука получит улучшение на флопе (или на флопе и терне; или на флопе, терне и ривере). Мелкая пара улучшится до Three of a kind на флопе в 12.5%! а 56s? 46s? 42o? AKs? QTo? и др.
Если Вы добавите такую возможность в PT4, то это поможет многим, и нигде больше такой программы не будет.


2. Заметки. Мне кажется, что удобней использовать одно многострочное поле для заметок, а не сортировать их по датам (если кому то нужно добавить дату, можно сделать кнопку "Дата", которая будет добавлять дату в текущее место курсора). Если заметок на игрока много, то их нужно упорядочить, а сейчас этого сделать нельзя (они отсортированны только по датам, и поменять их местами нельзя).

3. Пожалуйста добавьте возможность появления всплывающих окон при наведении на конкретный стат. Как в HM, только с цветами в стиле PokerTracker. Я думаю многим так будет удобней (можно провести опрос). Когда много собственных статов, их удобней разбить на небольшие всплывающие окна, и выводить при наведении на конкретный стат. Это будет очень важное нововведение! Я думаю, что если Вы это сделаете, то PT4 станет однозначным лидером на рынке!
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby WhiteRider » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:57 am

Thanks - I'll pass on your comments. The notes system is definitely improved for PT4. :)
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby trixilw » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:24 am

Oh my f... god! The built-in ICM calculations will rock!
Good job, I cant wait for the upgrade!
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby StevenM » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:42 pm

WiSucht wrote:I want to offer you a few ideas:

1. Now there are a lot of equity calculators (PokerStove, etc.). All they are doing the same thing. But they do not have the next opportunity.


We don't plan on adding texture ranges to the built in PT4 equity calculator because it falls outside the scope of how we think the tool will be used for post game analysis. Instead we have created a post flop range report in PT4 which shows street by street results visually, it is not the same as your request but it may be helpful for your needs none the less globally across your entire filtered database.

There is a third party equity calculation utility that performs the function you were asking about, I recommend you take a look at Flopzilla which shows how a range may hit the board in the remaining streets. The tool allows the user to input a range and a board and will then show in what way and how often that range hits the board. This tool is not supported by PokerTracker, but you might find it helpful.

[/quote]2. Notes. I think that it is more convenient to use a multiline field for notes, rather than sorting them by date (if someone is needed to add the date, we can click on the button "Date", which will add the date to the current cursor position). If the player a lot of notes, they must be organized, but now can not be done (they are sorted only by date, and you can not swap them).

3. Please add the possibility of pop-up windows when you hover on a particular stat. As in HM, just with the flowers in the style of PokerTracker. I think so many will be more convenient (you can conduct a survey). When many of their own stats, it is convenient to break up into small popup window and display when you hover on a particular stat. [/quote]

As Whiterider mentioned, the notes system has been completely redesigned, it uses a new free-form editor with text that can be formatted. The date entry has been removed, as it is not that important for the end user. I think you will be very happy with our new notes system in PT4!

Our default HUDs will continue to follow the popup with tabs model because that is what the majority of our users want, but you are free to customize the HUD to add more table groups with their own pop ups. PT4 uses a popup system which is very advanced, you can create multiple table groups and each table group can get its own popup and tabs within the popup - our users have the freedom to customize their HUDs in ways that cannot be done on any other tracker, the HUD designer is very powerful!

PS: Thank you for providing the original post in Russian, that helped me find alternative translations to make answering your question easier. Good luck, we hope you enjoy using PT4 when it is released!


trixilw wrote:Oh my f... god! The built-in ICM calculations will rock!
Good job, I cant wait for the upgrade!


thank you so much, posts like yours make us so happy!
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby WiSucht » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:18 am

Thank you for Flopzilla. Useful program. But it does not do what I said. I myself a programmer, and myself have written a calculator that I need.

Thank you very much for your reply. It is waiting for output PT4!!! :)
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby WiSucht » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:29 am

Just got the idea. You can do that to your notes, recognize the card and display small images. For example note:

DB F: 9s9h @ PF R (3) utg, F DB (1 / 4) / 3B (allin) @ As2h9c

And while watching, 9s9h, As2h9c pictures will be displayed.

It will be very convenient. :)

But it is not so important :)
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby pasita » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:58 am

pasita wrote:From the previews it seems there's finally an easy way to separate between FL/PL/NL games. PLEASE make it as easy (or rather, the default) in the HUD. Also, do separate HI and HILO games. I don't want to see villains Omaha PL HI stats messing up the hud when playing Omaha FL HILO against him.


If there was a confirmation for this (go/nogo/we'll see/meh) then I missed it. I hope this feature is planned?
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby kraada » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:00 am

Hi and Hi/Lo stats are separated already in the alphas as far as I'm aware.
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby pasita » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:03 am

And NL/PL/FL hopefully also?
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Re: Coming Soon: PokerTracker 4

Postby kraada » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:48 am

I believe FL is split from NL/PL but NL and PL are mixed. I'll have to check on this though to be certain.
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