Opinions Needed: Rake

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How should rake be determined?

The way PT2 does it
2
13%
Equal to percentage of pot won
8
53%
Main pot pays 100%, side pots pay 0%
4
27%
Other (please specify)
1
7%
 
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Opinions Needed: Rake

Postby Josh » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:03 pm

I need some opinions on how we should handle rake. When you view your stats, under the General tab, PT3 lists the amount of rake paid. Currently, PT3 is doing it the same way PT2 is doing it: Any hand you win, you pay the full rake, even in split pots, it counts the full rake towards each player who wins. Obviously, this isn't accurate, and should probably change. What I'm trying to figure out is the best way to do it. I've come up with some alternatives:

[bogj]Equal to the percentage of the pot won.[/bogj]
With this method, if you have a $125 overall pot, where $100 is the main pot, and $25 is the side pot, the winner pays 80% of the rake. If the rake is $3, then the primary winner will pay $2.40, and the other winner will pay only $0.60.

[bogj]Winner of the main pot pays 100% of the rake.[/bogj]
With this method, if you have a $125 overall pot, where $100 is the main pot, and $25 is the side pot, the winner pays 100% of the rake. If that rake is $3, then the primary winner will pay $3, and the other winner will pay $0.

Please vote on which method you think we should use. If you think of an alternative not mentioned here, please let us know.
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Re: Opinions Needed: Rake

Postby WhiteRider » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:10 pm

I would think that you could calculate the rake each player paid, since you know how much everyone put in, and how much went into each part of the pot, and how much is paid out from each part of the pot to each player.

Certainly I want to know how much rake [b41l]I[/b41l] paid, rather than the total.
(The total should still be available, e.g. in the summary line on the hand history window, and anywhere you show a hand in general rather than related to a specific player)
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Re: Opinions Needed: Rake

Postby midas » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:47 pm

[quote="Josh"nbj]
With this method, if you have a $150 overall pot, where $100 is the main pot, and $25 is the side pot, the winner pays 80% of the rake. If the rake is $3, then the primary winner will pay $2.40, and the other winner will pay only $0.60.
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I'm having a hard time figuring out the math here. $150 overall pot, $100 main pot, $25 side pot. Somewhere I'm missing $25.

But assuming the overall pot is actually $125, I think 80/20 in this case would be the right way to split it. Ties would then split those percentages again.
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Re: Opinions Needed: Rake

Postby Josh » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:58 pm

Oops, that should've said $125. I've fixed the OP.
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Re: Opinions Needed: Rake

Postby Josh » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:10 pm

After some more thought and investigation, since it's possible to figure out exactly how much the players should win if the rake wasn't taken, I can figure out exactly how much of the rake they are paying. That's the most accurate way to do it, so that's the way it will be done.
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Re: Opinions Needed: Rake

Postby WhiteRider » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:21 pm

[quote="Josh"dnr]After some more thought and investigation, since it's possible to figure out exactly how much the players should win if the rake wasn't taken, I can figure out exactly how much of the rake they are paying. That's the most accurate way to do it, so that's the way it will be done.[/quotednr]
Yes, that's what I was trying to say, I just didn't word it that well.
Nice one.
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