HUD: Amount Won - Tournaments difference betw PT2 and 3?

[ratana]

Hi, with PT2 if I clicked on a person on the HUD and got the popup, if i was in a tournament, it would show the amount they had won (or lost) in terms of profit/ monetary buy-ins. For example, if I had played with someone only once before before in a 10+1 SNG, and they had busted out, it would show "-11.00". the PT3 hud seems to be showing amount won in terms of tournament chips, which does not really tell me much. Just wondering if this is on purpose or can this be considered a bug?

Thank you --

[WhiteRider]

The Amount Won stat for tournaments is currently in chips - I guess that it was added based on the same stat for cash games which would of course be real money.
I'm sure the stat for money won will be added as a default stat, but for now you should be able to create it as a Custom Statistic. See the Documentation.

[ratana]

Do you now which items I should use to make this a custom stat? I looked through the documentation and I am still a little unclear on what to do.

[WhiteRider]

EDIT: Please note that while this will work in some situations this kind of stat will not work properly and may cause problems with housekeeping so THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED.

OK, it's not the simplest example this, but I think I've made it.
The total money won is already available as a built-in statistic, but it is in the wrong section to be shown on the HUD (it is defined in 'Holdem Tournament Tournaments', whereas the stats shown on the HUD are taken from section 'Holdem Tournament Player Statistics').
So we need to recreate this statistic in the correct section.

1. Configure -> Configure Stats.
2. Choose section 'holdem tournament player statistics'

Create a couple of new columns:
3. Click 'Columns' tab. Create new colums... Make sure you save each one.
3a. "amt_money_won". Enter this in the Expression:
sum(tourney_holdem_results.amt_won)
3b. "amt_buyin_ttl". Enter this in the Expression:
sum(tourney_holdem_summary.amt_buyin + tourney_holdem_summary.amt_rake + tourney_holdem_results.amt_rebuy + tourney_holdem_results.amt_addon)
(I copied this from the Column of the same name in the 'holdem tournament tournaments' section.

We now create a variable to hold the net amount won, using the 2 columns we just created.
4. Click 'Variables' tab.
4a. Enter a new variable called "amt_net". Enter this in the Expression field:
amt_money_won - amt_buyin_ttl
Make sure you click Save.

We can now create the Statistic.
5. Click 'Statistics' tab.
5a. Create a new Statistic called "Money Won Net". Enter this in the Expression:
amt_net
(this is the variable we just created)
5b. Click the 'Format' tab on this stat, and fill in the fields, e.g. Title="$Net", width=80. Enter this in the 'Format Expression' field and 'Format Summary Expression' (same in both).
format_money( amt_net, true )
5c. On the 'Categories' tab you may want to include the stat in 'Money' and maybe 'Results'.
Again, click Save.

The "Money Won Net" statistic should now be available to be added to Custom Reports, and to the tournament HUD.

[ratana]

I just tried this and the results were... interesting. It started out saying I won about what i won.. when looking at my stat, then it started to have different numbers on all huds and the amount was way higher. interestingly, for my opponents where I had 1 hand on them, it started saying they were down a tournament buy in, and then down increasingly more. I have no idea where it is getting these numbers from.

[WhiteRider]

For those players with one hand, the loss of one buy in is correct, because you've seen them in one tournament which they've entered but not won.

As for your results, there is an issue on cash tables in beta 15 with your own lifetime stats showing, so I wonder if this is related to that.
Does this stat work properly if you add the stat to the main reports?

[ratana]

I have not added it to the main reports, but I do see my lifetime stats pop up in my tourney huds all the time, the hud stats often get jumbled position wise (on stars) and finally correct themselves within a hand or two (and it replaces my lifetime stats with normal stats). To be honest I have not really played with the reports section yet, I will give it a try soon.

Also, when I had this stat showing on the tourney hud it soon started taking up all my cpu so I had to remove it. It was really messing with the stats of my opponents, not just mine. I added it to the popup display, instead of on the actual table hud, if that helps.

[ratana]

Hi, just wondering if this will indeed become like the PT2 behavior at some point, ie, is this planned on the list of fixes or additions to the default stats. I have not attempted to use this again because of the previously mentioned issues. As far as reports go, I am having trouble understanding the interface, I will try to spend more time with it and the documentation for reports (if any exists). thanks --

[WhiteRider]

What do you mean?
The Amount Won is the value in chips. Another stat for Money Won will probably be added, but as I said above you can already make this as a Custom Stat.

[ratana]

What do you mean?
The Amount Won is the value in chips. Another stat for Money Won will probably be added, but as I said above you can already make this as a Custom Stat.

Like I said, I made the custom stat exactly as you suggested and it caused my hud to crash as well as the strange behavior noted above, so just want to know if you can say for sure that this will be added as a "feature" even though it was standard in PT2.