noob alert: PT3 questions/issues/requests

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3) is there any progress on having the text in the HUD remain white while the numbers in the stat change color?

This is easy to do by using Text instead of the prefix.

[jsimon101]

^^^ thanks for this info.

Is there a stat for limping the button and calling a raise? Or even just over-limping-calling? thx again...

[jsimon101]

(1) When you say doesn't work do you mean a box doesn't appear when you click on the Note Editor or you don't see the Note Editor at all?

sorry for the confusion . . . no I see the note icon but the notes box doesn't open

(2) Yes, you can do this with the stack size in bb statistic - are the HU tourneys or cash games?

I play cash games. If it's yes can you please elaborate? I'm not sure if I understand the "bb stat"?

(3) Not at this point in time.

thanks again for the reply and help

[WhiteRider]

^^^ thanks for this info.

Is there a stat for limping the button and calling a raise? Or even just over-limping-calling? thx again...

The built-in stat "Preflop Limp Call" does what you want, and you can build a version specifically for the button (position 0) as described in the Tutorial: Custom Reports and Statistics.

[jsimon101]

^^^ thanks for this info.

Is there a stat for limping the button and calling a raise? Or even just over-limping-calling? thx again...

The built-in stat "Preflop Limp Call" does what you want, and you can build a version specifically for the button (position 0) as described in the Tutorial: Custom Reports and Statistics.

I'm not sure if I have the time nor the aptitude to learn and then build these stats. Do you think you can write out the expressive equations that I need to enter this into the columns tab in "the build stats window"? This is where my eyes glaze over...


I'm specifically looking for positional stats from the button/small blind. in Heads UP, the small blind always has the dealer button, that is the button and the small blind are the same position. I don't mean to be patronizing but I say this becasue here was some confusion in my hud at least in HU as to differentiate "bu" and "sb" even though they are the same. For example: in my HUcash hud - with the ATS:button incorporated the stat is blank - after 250 hands - I assume because PT3 can't differentiate the two positions as one position ... I don't know if that makes sense but that's what I make of it.

So the specific stats that I need:

raises first in when on the button/small blind: this is every time the player has the button and is in the small blind and open raises to any amount. This is not the same as vpip sb or pfr, or ats from the sb (which is actually reads the very same as vpip sb). The reason I need this stat and not the vpip is because the vpip doesn't necessarily give me the opponents button raising range. This requested stat will be more definitive in determining that information. This is key for me to improving my game.

limp - folds to a raise in the sb/button - that is the player limps when first to act on the sb/button - the bb raises - sb folds.

Just as an FYI on using other permanent pt3 stats to sub for the above these stats are the same:
ats and ats:sb = vpip:sb
bb vs sb - call & call bb to steal = vpip bb
bb vs sb: raise = 3b:pf

Again you can just give me the "expression" equation to incorporate in the column tab as I have really no idea what to put in here. This would be a huge help me -- and to other HU cash players as I know that in my community there has been much talk about these stats. If I can get this up and running I'll probably share this on your website as a service to the community because like I said - this is a much talked about stat amongst HU players.

thanks

[kraada]

In heads up play, the small blind values take precedence, so for all heads up hands the small blind & button is considered as position = 9, not position = 0. So you actually want attempt to steal from the small blind, not the button (even though in heads up play they are the same). Either way, you don't need any custom stats here - just use attempt to steal in the blinds position. You cannot attempt to steal in the big blind and all small blind attempts to steal are raises first in - so you'll get the number you want that way.

You can also use the default statistic Preflop Limp Fold - if you set up the Player Ranges section to have a range of 2 to 2 on the Configure Hud --> Hud Options tab you'll only see heads up data while heads up. The only time you can then limp when heads up is in the small blind - so Preflop Limp Fold will be the same as limp/fold from the SB - since that's the only place it can happen.

[jsimon101]

I'll try and find a player that limps a lot and see if the stats adjust themselves.

[kraada]

They certainly should - let me know if they don't.

[jsimon101]

They certainly should - let me know if they don't.

So I pulled up a player with 150 hands. The stats should converge at this point. But I believe the stats don't really line up.

His over all BB vpip is 47. His 3b is 18 (he can only 3b from the bb): 18. His cold call to a raise in the bb is 38 (this is the same as "call pfr" and "called bb from a sb steal"). So ... should these previous two stats added together equal the bb vpip (it's 47 not 56)? This is where I'm confused.

conversely on the sb his overall sb vpip was 54 - I used the ats from sb and it came out to be 26 - but over the whole entire 150 hand match he openlimped on the sb five times (my limp cc a raise stat told me that) - so these numbers are a little iffy as well.

Ultimately I need two simplified stats:
1-cold calls from the big blind to a sb raise
2-open raises from the small blind/button

I just don't think my hud with the above stats in it accurately give me this info - does it?

can you help me make sense of this? thanks

[kraada]

(1) You can 3-bet from the SB, you just have to have limped first. You said he limped and faced a raise 5 times, so he had 5 chances to 3-bet while in the small blind. This is likely why these numbers aren't adding up.

(2) We have a 150 hand sample, of which he's in the small blind 75 times. Of those his VP$IP was 54 - so he played 40 hands. We know he limped 5 times, so his attempt to steal should've been 35 / 75 or 46 so something is definitely going wrong here. Could you zip up and attach the hands in question to a support ticket? Then we could test on the same hands and try and figure out why this isn't working properly.

(3) We do have some other stats though that I don't think I've mentioned previously - BB v SB Steal - Call should be stat 1 that you want, and it is calculated a bit differently than the other stealing stat so that one should still work - it uses the pot size and raise amount facing to make sure the only person in otherwise is the small blind.

So if you could create that support ticket for (2) we'll definitely look into it and try and figure out what is going wrong here because that stat really should be working exactly as you want it to.