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Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:45 am
by r3ddrag0nx
My HUD was working fine until I left my table and rejoined to sit at another seat and my hand count for this one player, which had been 11, had resetted to 1. How do I fix that?

Edit: I believe my player ranges have been the cause for this. I cannot be certain, but 75/35% is a flip you'd take any day right?

Re: Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:23 am
by kraada
Player ranges certainly could cause that sort of result.

And there's no such thing as a 75/35 flip . . .

Re: Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:05 pm
by r3ddrag0nx
It was late... I was sleepy... LOL

I was wondering if the HUD pulls hands from previous sessions of play for your own stats? I dont have enough stats on everyone yet, but for me, I've got quite some hands and I was wondering if it imports all the hands played within the player range i'm sitting in

Re: Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:19 pm
by kraada
The HUD should only be for your current session. If you rejoin the table quickly it might well pull from the previous hands (I think PT3's multitable session timeout is something like 15 minutes). It should switch when the player ranges do, though.

Re: Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:51 am
by r3ddrag0nx
thanks for the responses kraada

maybe im not understanding what session refers to but, does PT3 HUD gather previous hands from players you've played before and add it to current session so calculation is like the overall impression of how the player plays instead of how they are playin in the current session?

Re: Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:39 pm
by kraada
Let me give an example, maybe that will make it clearer.

You're playing 9 handed, 5 of the people you've never seen before. Obviously their stats on the table start at 0. If 1 person you've played 100 hands with, his stats start at hand 101 and the previous 100 hands are included. This is because most people don't change their play drastically across different times when you meet them and the prior data will likely be useful. If you only had data from this table it'd be hard to get reliable statistics on things like 3-betting percentages or c-bet percentages. Two of the remaining people you have 1000 hands + on. Their stats start from wherever they left off also.

Your stats though start fresh for this session. Because you don't know whether they use PT or not, you don't know if they have more data on you or not, but you do know for sure they've seen you do everything you've done on this table. So if you're running at 40/35 over the first 50 hands b/c you've been getting great cards, they might think you're crazy and knowing that should be useful for you.

Does that help?

Re: Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:11 am
by r3ddrag0nx
Definitely.

If it's okay to ask one more question, I just wanted to know some stats that I could display on the HUD that can be fairly reliable without as many hands needed for some of the other lesser known stats?

Re: Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:47 am
by kraada
I have my HUD available here, though a lot of my stats have turned out to almost never get the sample size required. So I'm going to work on an upgrade to that HUD at some point, when I have time . . . but those are the stats that I use, for what it's worth.

Re: Left and Rejoin tables but stats reset?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:04 am
by WhiteRider
kraada wrote:The HUD should only be for your current session. If you rejoin the table quickly it might well pull from the previous hands (I think PT3's multitable session timeout is something like 15 minutes).

Just to clarify, the session timeout only applies if you rejoin in the same seat (or sit out and in again). If you rejoin in a new seat it will always be a new session, regardless of how long you were away from the table.

highfalutin