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Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:22 pm
by erdnase17
My friend posted this error here https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/vie ... 58&t=42291
I would add that the statistic definition should not use cnt_p_3bet_def_opp = Number of times the player faced 3bet preflop but a similar count only for the cases where he is not put all in by the 3bet he is facing.

Thanks.

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:48 pm
by WhiteRider
Thanks, but there is no need to cross-post - we read every post and I have already replied to your friend's post.

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:25 pm
by erdnase17
As a workaround I made a temporary definition of the preflop 4B stat as 100- (call 3bnai + fold 3bnai).

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100 - ((cnt_p_3bet_nai_def_action_call / cnt_p_3bet_nai_def_opp) * 100 + (cnt_p_3bet_def_action_fold_nai / cnt_p_3bet_def_opp_nai) * 100)


However when I try to pick this stat using the Holdem Range Visualiser it does not appear in the list of stats when I click on the wrench icon.
What is going on here?

Also the logs folder under AppData\Local\PokerTracker 4 is empty so I can't see any errors.

Thanks.

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:04 pm
by kraada
Only stats in the from (A / B) * 100 will display in the HHRV. You would need to rework your value expression to be in this form in order for the stat to display in that list.

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:37 pm
by erdnase17
Do you know when the built in 4b stat will be corrected or how to write a correct definition?

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:21 pm
by kraada
I don't have a time frame for the fix at this time but if you create a support ticket and ask to be linked to bug #3695 you will receive automated notification when a fix is available.

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:30 pm
by erdnase17
I tried to define the column that counts the opportunities to 4bet as
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cnt_p_3betnai_def_opp

sum(if[tourney_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet_def_opp AND lookup_positions.flg_sb AND NOT (tourney_hand_player_statistics.enum_face_allin = 'P' OR tourney_hand_player_statistics.enum_face_allin = 'p') , 1, 0])


I am counting only the times where the raiser was not all in with the condition NOT tourney_hand_player_statistics.enum_face_allin = 'p' and would not be all in if we called with the condition NOT tourney_hand_player_statistics.enum_face_allin = 'P'.

Is this correct?

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:52 am
by kraada
The problem with that is that it also excludes times you 4bet and then faced a 5bet shove.

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:26 am
by erdnase17
kraada wrote:The problem with that is that it also excludes times you 4bet and then faced a 5bet shove.


Do you have an idea on how to define this column?

It seems like due to the unlimited reraise sequences that can occur on a round of betting in No Limit there should be some way to record the amounts raised by each player in a given round.
There is an opportunity to 4bet if the remaining stack of the player is greater than the amount of the raise he is facing. But to get the remaining stack of the player it is necessary to know how much he raised in each of the previous actions.

Re: Error in 4Bet Preflop built-in stat

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:40 am
by kraada
As I said above it's an issue the development team is working on and if you create a ticket linked to that bug you'll get notification when a fix is available.