Some missing stats from pt3

[ericb]

Hi,

I just upgraded to PT4, and it seems that PT4 is missing some stats that PT3 had.

-Raise Total
-Fold F/T/R
-BB/SB Faced Steal
-BB/SB Steal Def WTSD, Steal WTSD
-BB/SB Steal Def W SD, Steal W SD
-BB/SB Steal Def w/o SD, Steal W w/o

I don't know if this is the complete list, but before I start to export them from PT3. Is there a particular reason why they're not included in PT4?

Anyway, thank you for the new tool(s) to play with.

[kraada]

Raise Total and the general Fold F/T/R stats were removed because we believed that given the trend in modern games these stats had very little meaning since they grouped such disparate situations together.

You could certainly build these two out of existing columns though, by adding up the 2bet, 3bet and 4bet columns (and their opportunities) for postflop streets. Honestly though I'd recommend looking into either using street by street 2Bet (which is the first raise and the most common and generic kind of raise there is) and either Fold to (F/T/R) Bet or Fold to (F/T/R) 2Bet depending on what you're looking for. If you want a general proxy for aggression, take a look at Total AFq.

All position specific stats in PT4 were removed because in PT4 we now have the ability to add any stat to the HUD and set its position in the Item Properties area - and those include individual SB and BB positions.

Though we don't have faced steal stats you reference, I will look into building those for you and attach them here once they are ready.

[ericb]

Raise Total and the general Fold F/T/R stats were removed because we believed that given the trend in modern games these stats had very little meaning since they grouped such disparate situations together.

You could certainly build these two out of existing columns though, by adding up the 2bet, 3bet and 4bet columns (and their opportunities) for postflop streets. Honestly though I'd recommend looking into either using street by street 2Bet (which is the first raise and the most common and generic kind of raise there is) and either Fold to (F/T/R) Bet or Fold to (F/T/R) 2Bet depending on what you're looking for. If you want a general proxy for aggression, take a look at Total AFq.

All position specific stats in PT4 were removed because in PT4 we now have the ability to add any stat to the HUD and set its position in the Item Properties area - and those include individual SB and BB positions.

Though we don't have faced steal stats you reference, I will look into building those for you and attach them here once they are ready.

Thanks,
I undertand your point of view. The information isn't much worth in isolation, 2+1+0=3 and 1+1+1=3. Maybe I'm a nitpick, but for some reason I start with a top down view instead of a bottom up view. So, I want to know the solution for that patricular calculation. Besides that I try to look at stats in a holistic way. I don't understand why people have there postflop HUD seperated in different tabs (F/T/R). Anyway..

If you want a general proxy for aggression, take a look at Total AFq

I Know, it's not about aggression, it's mostly about fold equity.

Though we don't have faced steal stats you reference, I will look into building those for you and attach them here once they are ready.

So it seems that I can't export them from PT3 into PT4? If you can re-create those stats, please do. I'm terrible with formulas .

[kraada]

I'll add them to my list and post them here when they're ready.

[ericb]

Kindly bump.

I really like to see at least a couple of these stats in PT4. I use some of the steal, and steal defense, stats to figure out what hand-range % I can steal with. Especially Fold to steal SB/BB, and Steal WTSD SB/BB, (and there defense stats).

1.
Fold BB to Steal (Folded Big Blind to Steal Raise)
Description: The percentage of times the player folded their big blind (BB) when facing a steal raise.
Formula: ( Total Times Folded BB To Steal / Total BB Steal Defense Opportunities ) * 100
1b.
Fold SB to Steal (Folded Small Blind to Steal Raise)
Description: The percentage of times the player folded the small blind (SB) when facing a steal raise.
Formula: ( Total Times Folded SB To Steal / Total SB Steal Defense Opportunities ) * 100

2.
[SB/BB] Steal Def WTSD (Small/Big Blind Steal Defense Went To ShowDown)
Description: The percentage of times that the hand went to a showdown when the player faced a steal raise in the small or big blind.
Formula: ( total times hand went to showdown when facing steal raise in SB|BB / total times faced steal raise in SB|BB ) * 10

[WhiteRider]

1. You don't need custom stats for these - you can use the built-in stat "Fold to Steal" and set the Position property in the Hud Editor to either BB or SB.

2. Take a look at how the "WTSD" (Went To ShowDown) stat is made and you can make a new version of a steal defense stat which includes that information.
The Custom Statistics Guide will get you started. The Tutorial: Custom Reports and Statistics was written for PT3 but the same principals apply and this goes into much more detail.

For example, a column to count how often you face a steal and go to showdown would be:

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_showdown AND cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_blind_def_opp, 1, 0])

I'm not sure exactly how you'd like to define the "opportunities" column, but I guess it might be times that the player faced a steal and didn't fold immediately? That could be:

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_blind_def_opp AND lookup_actions_p.action != 'F', 1, 0])