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fold to turn burrel after called c/raise
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:27 am
by minotaurs
How to find stat how often player folds to turn barel after he has called flop check/raise?
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:53 am
by kraada
You'd need to build a custom statistic for this situation. Our custom statistics documentation is not quite ready yet but we are working on it - if you'd like, I can either help you work through it or I can put it on my list to build for you, but my list is a bit long at the moment so it may take some time before it's ready.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:52 am
by BillGatesIII
Can you please verify this custom stat gives you the correct values?
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:16 am
by kraada
That is not going to work - what you've done is multiply how often someone calls a check/raise by how often they fold to a turn cbet. There are two problems:
(1) A turn cbet means betting the flop and the turn having made a preflop raise; that's not what you are looking for with this stat.
(2) Even if it were you can't just multiply these two percentages together to figure out how often someone calls when they face this spot. Imagine someone calls check/raises 50% of the time and then when they face another barrel they call 50% of the time. Clearly the number we want is 50% not 50% * 50% (which would result in 25%).
In order to build this stat you need to make two new columns - one which counts up how often you've faced a check/raise on the flop and called it and then faced a turn bet, and the other which counts up the times you've faced a check/raise on the flop, called it and folded to a turn bet.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:24 am
by kraada
Double posting because I realized I didn't state this clearly:
The stat "Check/Fold to T Bet After CBet & Call Flop" is available in the
warehourse for free download; I uploaded it yesterday and it will work properly.
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Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:58 am
by BillGatesIII
Thank you for this clear explanation. I was mistakenly thinking both actions are independent which of course they are not.
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Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:53 am
by EnoTmiS
This stat works fine when we are in position, but it would be great to have another one that works OOP. If we are on the BB, we call the button open, we c/r him, than we could know how many times he folds to our Turn Bet. It would be possible to have this stat? Thanks!
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Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:59 pm
by kraada
The one from the warehouse can certainly be edited to get what you're looking for - just remove the bits about checking the turn.
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:19 am
by bruzi
BillGatesIII wrote:Can you please verify this custom stat gives you the correct values?
Is this correct stats available? (check/fold after call CR Isnt good->this is when is vilain OOP/I need when is IP or total)
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Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:29 am
by kraada
The version in the warehouse should work properly. You can find the warehouse
here.