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Not ((Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn))
and
Not (Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And Not (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn)
aren't the same thing?

gennysennin wrote:Not ((Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn))
and
Not (Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And Not (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn)
aren't the same thing?

IMO its not the same.

Case 1: Hero didnt bet the flop and (but) bets the turn. Example: Villain checks the flop, Hero checks back. Villain checks the turn, Hero bets the turn.
Case 2: Hero didnt bet the flop and didnt bet turn either. Example: Villain checks the flop, Hero checks back. Villain checks the turn, Hero checks back.

EDIT: never mind, didnt see double (()). Yes its the same.

ranka wrote:

gennysennin wrote:Not ((Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn))
and
Not (Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And Not (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn)
aren't the same thing?

IMO its not the same.

Case 1: Hero didnt bet the flop and (but) bets the turn. Example: Villain checks the flop, Hero checks back. Villain checks the turn, Hero bets the turn.
Case 2: Hero didnt bet the flop and didnt bet turn either. Example: Villain checks the flop, Hero checks back. Villain checks the turn, Hero checks back.

EDIT: never mind, didnt see double (()). Yes its the same.

FWIW , I thought the same, nearly posted , then saw the brackets.

Then if they are the same, why changing them in filter one hand appears with one and not with other?
With
Not ((Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn)) this hand appears, while with
Not (Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And Not (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn) it doesn't appear.

UTG: €0.80
UTG+1: €1.87
MP: €1.71
CO: €1.14
Hero (BTN): €2.28
SB: €0.33
BB: €2.02

SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has 2c Jh

UTG raises to €0.04, fold, MP calls €0.04, fold, fold, fold, BB calls €0.02

Flop: (€0.13, 3 players) Td 2s Jd
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets €0.04, BB raises to €0.08, fold, MP calls €0.04

Turn: (€0.29, 2 players) 3s
BB bets €0.16, MP calls €0.16

River: (€0.61, 2 players) 5d
BB checks, MP bets €0.20, BB calls €0.20

Whilst were waiting for a reply, Ive studied it.

Its like the singe bracket makes the statement negative, and the double Positive.

Either its supposed to happen or its a known issue that will be brought to the developers attention at the appropriate time.

Not (X AND Y) is not equivalent to NOT(X) and NOT(Y) - because the first "AND" is inside the NOT and you're missing it when you distribute. NOT(X AND Y) is logically equivalent to NOT(X) OR NOT(Y).

Think about it like this:

X AND Y is only true when X is true and Y is true. NOT(X and Y) is the opposite - so it's true whenever either X is false or Y is false and only false when both X and Y are true.

For more on this, see this wikipedia article on De Morgan's Laws.

gennysennin wrote:Not ((Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn))
and
Not (Bet flop Any Flop Bet) And Not (Bet Turn Any Bet Turn)
aren't the same thing?

I think it is different because;
In the first one you will select hands which player did not bet on flop&river,
the second one you want to select hands which plater did not bet on both street at all.