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[NT] 3Bet IP/OOP, lead aggressor, 1st bettor, 1st raiser

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:54 pm
by Stratocaster
I just want to split notes from 3bet to IP and OOP. (Raise Preflop any 3bet) AND (Active Player Position Relative To Lead Aggressor Relative Position of Selected Is In Position). This doesn't work, just showing 1h from 1k and it is stack off BB vs SB. If I change lead aggressor to 1st bettor and test shows (on the same 1k hand ofc) 2 hands were are 3bets IP, BTN vs UTG and BB vs SB. Last try with 1st raiser shows other 2 hands, both 3bet CO vs HJ :?: On that 1k hands it should made ~8 notes with tag 3bet IP. Position is set for the flop.


1) How to make those 2 stast?
2) What is the difference between those 3 options: Lead Aggressor, First Bettor and First Raise ???

Re: [NT] 3Bet IP/OOP, lead aggressor, 1st bettor, 1st raiser

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:03 am
by WhiteRider
If the player made the 3bet and was last to raise preflop then they were the lead aggressor, so comparing the positions of the active player and the lead aggressor won't work (as they are the same position/player).
If you want to check whether the preflop aggressor made a 3bet preflop and was in position on the flop you should use the filter Hand Details > Player Position > Flop > Active Player relative to All Players is In Position (or out of position).

Re: [NT] 3Bet IP/OOP, lead aggressor, 1st bettor, 1st raiser

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:25 am
by Stratocaster
Almost good. 3 bettor need to have position over 2 bettor, not absolute position. That's all I want, because now the note doesn't track hands like: UTG open, CO 3bet, BTN CC ...

Re: [NT] 3Bet IP/OOP, lead aggressor, 1st bettor, 1st raiser

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:56 am
by WhiteRider
I don't think that is possible - you can't distinguish between players who made different preflop actions, other than the final preflop aggressor.

Re: [NT] 3Bet IP/OOP, lead aggressor, 1st bettor, 1st raiser

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:19 pm
by Stratocaster
So I can't also make notes like Call 2bet IP/OOP, Call 3bet IP/OOP etc. Well that suck :(

Re: [NT] 3Bet IP/OOP, lead aggressor, 1st bettor, 1st raiser

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:01 pm
by WhiteRider
Do you mean for preflop? You can could do it with a combination of filters in the Hand Details > Player Position > Preflop; by filtering for the position of the 2bettor and a range of positions for the active player for example. You'd need multiple filter pairs, though. There isn't a preflop filter for in or out of position.
With that sort of combination of filters you could probably do what you asked in your previous post too, although it'll likely be a bit long-winded.

Re: [NT] 3Bet IP/OOP, lead aggressor, 1st bettor, 1st raiser

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:35 pm
by Stratocaster
Part1) :| Ok I will try once more.
Just focus on 3Bet IP/OOP note to keep this simple. When some1 3bet In Position it means that he will act after 2 Bettor post flop. So to make the note I have to check does 3 bettor act after 2 bettor post flop. Simple, basic stuff.

Part2) Since I wound never guess that Lead Aggressor means Last Raiser, I will ask again how to interpret the First Raiser and First Bettor?

Re: [NT] 3Bet IP/OOP, lead aggressor, 1st bettor, 1st raiser

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:11 pm
by WhiteRider
First raiser and first bettor are the players who made those actions on the street in question - if you're in the flop section then it's the first bet or raise on the flop.