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These 2 notes trigger when they shouldn't (wrong stack size filters)...




These 3 notes do trigger as they should...

AutoNote: Hand #3198563310: Player: P5_386617TB Note: Called 3Bets OOP ( ES: 51-75 BB ) - {cardrange:66}
AutoNote: Hand #3198563310: Player: P5_386617TB Note: Called any 3Bets ( ES: 51-75 BB ) - {cardrange:66}
AutoNote: Hand #3198563310: Player: P5_386617TB Note: 2Bet range ( ES: 51-75 BB ) - {cardrange:66}

No clue what's going on here but Merry X-mas guys!

I'm not sure what you mean exactly, but because hero is the deepest stack their effective stack is based on the next biggest stack still in the hand at the time of their first action, which looks like it's probably 101 (although I'm not 100% sure without seeing the real history).

P5 has less than 55 BB's and he's the only player in the hand. So I'm not sure how 101-150 BB filters and 51-75 BB filters both can be triggered. Isn't the smallest stack size in the hand supposed to be the effective stack size?

You said that "hero is the deepest stack their effective stack is based on the next biggest stack still in the hand at the time of their first action". So shouldn't the next biggest stack be P5's?

What do you mean by the real history? I would think that the raw HH wouldn't show anything else that the HH I posted wouldn't show.

When Hero 3bets, the BB has 101bb who is still in the hand at that moment.

Oh I see... my mistake. So do you think that one of my filters is incorrect if 2 different size filters are triggered for the same hand? The AK hand has 101 BB filter and the others I pasted are below 60 BB's and both sizes triggered different notes from the same hand. Is it possible to have different effective stack sizes in the same hand or did I mess up somewhere?

I don't think you did mess up somewhere

The first two notes are triggered for Hero, 3betting AKo with an effective stack of 101bb.

The last three notes are triggered for P5 who 2bet and called an 3bet oop with an effective stack of 52bb (holding 66).

Thanks, I appreciate it. I was afraid I'd have to go back and fix some more.

So just to clarify, the effective stack size is the next smallest stack still in the hand, not the next biggest stack?

dutch81 wrote:... So just to clarify, the effective stack size is the next smallest stack still in the hand, not the next biggest stack?

I'm not sure if that is a correct definition.

I normally refer to effective stack size as:

The maximum amount you can win or lose at the first action on a given street.

WhiteRider explains it like this:

Effective stacksizes are now stored for each player, based on their individual effective stack size at the time of their first action. This will either be their own stack size if there is another player with more chips, or the size of the second-deepest stack if they are deepest.

I normally refer to effective stack size as:

The maximum amount you can win or lose at the first action on a given street.

This makes perfect sense to me.


WhiteRider explains it like this:

Effective stacksizes are now stored for each player, based on their individual effective stack size at the time of their first action.

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Could you explain the stored part here? Other than that, I think I understand now.

By "stored" I meant stored in the database. Prior to this change there was just one "effective stack" for each hand, which was the shortest stack (IIRC). Now the individual effective stack for each player (based on how much they could win or lose, as clarified above by BillGatesIII - thanks!) is stored in the database.