Contributed Rake

[Wolfskin]

You can't be perfect about it, as someone could limp/fold but if you use holdem_hand_summary.cnt_players_f that will be all players who reached the flop, which is a pretty good approximation. Also, and it may no longer be this way, but certain sites used to count you as contributing so long as you saw the flop, so that may actually end up being what you want (I know OnGame used to do it that way several years back.)

Wow, kraada, thank you for telling me this!!!

It seems true, what you mentioned about OnGame.
Now a bonus looks much better, since there you also get points when you don't see the flop.

[kraada]

No problem, that's what I'm here for

[attiati]

Is there already a statistic for ongame, which counts the rake for ongame precise?
I dont neither know, what kind of rake system use the ongame network. Do you know?

sry for bad english

[WhiteRider]

The rake recorded in PT3 is accurate - it is the rake that you paid from pots you won.
If you mean something else, please tell us what it is that you want to calculate.

[attiati]

There is 3 main rake calculating methods in fact: dealt, avarage contributed, weight contributed.

The MGR column counts the rake with dealt method.
The rake column counts the rake only in pots, which I won, but I pay rake in pots too, which I've lost. So I think, it is not the reality.

I dont know, which rake system use the ongame network in fact.
I would like to add 2 more columns, which count the rake with weight contributed, and avarage contributed methods. Is is possible?

So I would have 3 columns, with all kind of the main rake calculating methods for the same network.

[attiati]

see this

http://www.raketherake.com/faq/index.php?action=article&cat_id=002&id=8&lang=

I would like to see all these methods in different columns for the same network with custom stats.

[WhiteRider]

You do not pay rake in pots that you lose - you just lose the money that you put in. The rake is taken from the pot before it is paid to the winner. Yes, the money that you put into the pot forms part of the rake, but the amount you lose in the hand is the same regardless of the amount of rake taken - if the hand was unraked you would lose the same amount of money.

To calculate your rake contribution in the methods from your link, create columns like this:

Dealt Cards
This is MGR.

Average Contributed
I'm not sure we can calculate this because we don't know how many people put money in.

Weighted Contributed
sum( holdem_hand_summary.amt_rake * (holdem_hand_player_detail.amt_bet_ttl / holdem_hand_summary.amt_pot) )

Tutorial - Custom Reports and Statistics

[attiati]

You can see from the handhistory, how many people put money in the pot, dont you?

And I dont understand you. If you can calculate weight contributed, than you can calculate avarage contributed too...
For the weight contributed calculate you needed to know also, how many people put money in....

It's easier to calculate avarage, than weight method.

[WhiteRider]

You can see from the handhistory, how many people put money in the pot, dont you?

Stats are not built from the hand history, they are built from the database, and you can't access the number of players to put money in.
You can see how many see the flop, but that won't count players who limp/fold preflop for instance.

And I dont understand you. If you can calculate weight contributed, than you can calculate avarage contributed too...
For the weight contributed calculate you needed to know also, how many people put money in....

No - the weight contributed just uses the total pot size and the amount you bet.

[attiati]

Stats are not built from the hand history, they are built from the database, and you can't access the number of players to put money in.

What do you say for this algorithm:
Wwe count the names of the player, who fulfil either of these statement:

put sb = true
put bb = true
preflop bet = true
preflop raise = true
preflop 3bet = true
preflop 4bet = true
preflop 5bet = true
preflop 6bet...

1 name matters only one time. For example if the "preflop bet= true" statement is true, than the algorithm doesn't analyze this player any more in this hand.

Every playername counts 1, who fulfil at least one statement.
So we get the number of players, who put money in.
And we assign the rake equal between those players.