Stats 3bet IP & OOP

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Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby dan4qa » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:59 am

Can i put in popup stats - 3bet & fold 2 3bet In position an out of position?
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:10 am

Any postflop stat can be displayed for in or out of position in the HUD using the appropriate property. This is not available for preflop stats because the definition of in or out of position is less clear - do you mean for preflop here? They can be built as custom stats if you can clarify exactly how you would define in or out of position preflop.
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby dan4qa » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:21 am

WhiteRider wrote:Any postflop stat can be displayed for in or out of position in the HUD using the appropriate property. This is not available for preflop stats because the definition of in or out of position is less clear - do you mean for preflop here? They can be built as custom stats if you can clarify exactly how you would define in or out of position preflop.


Yes I mean preflop. But I can't built custom stats. :(. May I ask you define one of them for example? Anyway I think it will be great if this kind of stats will put as default one because in HoldemManager which I use as main program it's present as exactly default. (For today it's a single stats which missed compare with HM)
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby kraada » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:14 pm

What WhiteRider said is generally true for preflop position but in response to popular demand we did add the two stats:

Fold to PF 3Bet After Raise IP
and
Fold to PF 3Bet After Raise OOP

And those are built in and available by default.
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby dan4qa » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:06 pm

kraada wrote:What WhiteRider said is generally true for preflop position but in response to popular demand we did add the two stats:

Fold to PF 3Bet After Raise IP
and
Fold to PF 3Bet After Raise OOP

And those are built in and available by default.


Oops! Thnx! I found it!

p.s. wait for 3Bet PF IP & OOP
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby paradigm24 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:04 am

I'm interested in these 3Bet stats as well. Specifically, a 3B IP would be any 3bet not from the blinds (excludes limp/raise) and a 3B OOP would be any 3B from the blinds. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby kraada » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:36 am

You can set the existing 3bet statistics for either blind position - so you can quickly see what your 3bet stats do look like in the blinds.
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby Lure » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:43 am

I still don't get it. Here is my HM pop-up for 3betting, I can clearly see how often does the player 3b vs each position opener while himself being IP and OOP vs him. How can I make the same pop-up in PT4 ?
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby kraada » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:15 pm

The "3Bet vs IP" and "3Bet vs OOP" stats do not exist at this time and those would need to be made as custom stats.

You could build them using the following four column definitions (note: I assume you mean in position relative to the player who made the 2bet)

cnt_p_3bet_ip: sum(if[char_length(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p) >= 2 and
cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet and substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 2 for 1):: int > cash_hand_player_statistics.position, 1, 0])

cnt_p_3bet_ip_opp:
sum(if[char_length(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p) >= 2 and
cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet_opp and substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 2 for 1):: int > cash_hand_player_statistics.position, 1, 0])

and

cnt_p_3bet_oop: sum(if[char_length(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p) >= 2 and
cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet and substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 2 for 1):: int < cash_hand_player_statistics.position, 1, 0])

cnt_p_3bet_oop_opp:
sum(if[char_length(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p) >= 2 and
cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet_opp and substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 2 for 1):: int < cash_hand_player_statistics.position, 1, 0])

In all cases create these columns in the Cash Player section. Use the _opp version as the denominator in the fraction of the stat.

Once the stats are built, click Hud -> Edit Hud Profiles, then click on Positional Popups.

Create a New Group using said button on the left hand side. Since you only want EP, MP and CO, untick the other boxes in the Positions Setting area.

Click the Add Stat button at the lower left. Choose your new 3Bet vs IP stat and add it (giving it whatever label you want - e.g. 3b Vs IP), do the same for 3Bet vs OOP, then add the two default stats "3Bet vs BTN 2Bet" and "3Bet vs SB 2Bet" for your last two rows.
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Re: Stats 3bet IP & OOP

Postby dan4qa » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:36 pm

Sorry, but I can't did it :( can you built it and attach to forum file to import. Please... :?
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