NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

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NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby trylobit » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:17 pm

Hi!

I did couple of simple notes, now I need two that are a bit more complicated:

1. How often does villan 4Bet after I raise his steal attempt.
Villan must be in CO, BTN or SB.
Hero must be in SB or BB.

What I put in is:

PLAYER:
(Raised Preflop Any Raise) AND (Raised First In)
AND
(Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 9) OR (Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 0) OR (Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 1)
AND
Raised Preflop Any 4Bet

OPPONENT:
Player is Hero
AND
(Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 8) OR (Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 9)
AND
Raised Preflop Any 3Bet

I tested it and it seems to work well.
The problem I have is the second one which is very similar, yet testing doesn't give me any notes...

2. How often does villan Fold after I raise his steal attempt.
Villan must be in CO, BTN or SB.
Hero must be in SB or BB.

What I put is:

PLAYER:
(Raised Preflop Any Raise) AND (Raised First In)
AND
(Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 9) OR (Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 0) OR (Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 1)
AND
Folded Preflop Any Fold
AND
(First Action Raise) AND (Second Action Fold)

OPPONENT:
Player is Hero
AND
(Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 8) OR (Position of Active Player Position of Selected Exactly 9)
AND
Raised Preflop Any 3Bet


Thank you for your help in advance!
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Re: NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby WhiteRider » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:56 am

I can't see why that wouldn't work, but you could simplify it somewhat by using the "attempted steal" filter for 'player' (under Actions and Opportunities > Preflop > Raises) and "Raised Steal" for 'opponent' (in the same section).

I can get that note working with those filters.
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Re: NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby trylobit » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:34 am

OK.
I took 20k hands, to be sure that situations like this happen.

4Bet vs Hero ReSteal: I got a lot.

Fold vs Hero ReSteal: I got non:
Test Results for 'Fold vs Hero ReSteal' ...
Total time: 1.58m Per Hand Avg: 5ms


So I created only a note that a player attempts to steal and I 3Bet him (look at screen shot attached).
I checked out about 10 hands and all of them end up all-in PreFlop - something is set up incorrectly?

Little suggestion:
It would be so much easier if it's possible to simply click on the note and the hand appears. Looking for specific hand to analyse it when you have 20k hands tested is a pain in a**.
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Re: NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby kraada » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:17 am

In the screenshot you attached there doesn't appear to be any filter for Player folding, just having made the initial raise in the appropriate position.

Also, protip for simplicity: You can just use Actions & Opportunities --> Preflop --> Raises --> Attempted Steal for Player and that automatically means a raise first in when in one of the appropriate positions.
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Re: NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby trylobit » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:40 pm

OK, I got it working, just have a look if this one is correct:

Thank you in advance!
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Re: NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby kraada » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:26 pm

That looks good!
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Re: NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby BigGameHunter » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:00 pm

I think I'm having a similar problem so rather than create a new thread, I've decided to post here.

I'm trying to create a Big Blind 3Bet cardrange note that excludes trials where the player faces a steal attempt. I have used the following filters:

Player: (Position of Active Player Position ... Exactly 8) AND ((Raised Preflop Any 3Bet) AND (NOT (Faced Steal Att in Big Blind)))

Opponent: NOT (Attempted Steal)

I tried testing this on the following hand:

PokerStars - $0.25/$0.50 (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $34.77
CO: $11.53
Hero (BTN): $13.69
SB: $4.90
BB: $13.11
UTG: $2.37

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q:diamond: T:club:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25

Flop: ($2.25, 3 players) 4:spade: K:diamond: 9:spade:
SB checks, BB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25

Turn: ($3.00, 3 players) J:club:
SB checks, BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, BB calls $0.50

River: ($5.00, 2 players) 9:heart:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

Hero shows Q:diamond: T:club: (Straight, King High) (Pre 11%, Flop 17%, Turn 97%)
BB mucks Q:heart: Q:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (Pre 89%, Flop 83%, Turn 3%)
Hero wins $5.84

... and got the following result:

Test Results for 'All Active Automatic Note Rules' ...
AutoNote: Hand #82010454780: Player: Hero Note: BTN Steal Range {cardrange:QTo}
AutoNote: Hand #82010454780: Player: Villain Note: BB 3Bet Range (NvBS*) {cardrange:QQ}
Total time: 302ms Per Hand Avg: 302ms

*Not vs Blind Steal

I should only see Hero's note as Villain is facing a steal. Where am I going wrong??

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Re: NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby BigGameHunter » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:10 pm

I should only see Hero's note as Villain is facing a steal.


I've just noticed that the default note "3Bet Blind vs steals" note is active therefore Villain's hand should be here.
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Re: NoteTracker - Some help with creating notes needed

Postby WhiteRider » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:15 am

The Opponent filter in your note definition doesn't specifically apply to any one player, and in every hand at least one player didn't attempt to steal, so "NOT (Attempted Steal)" will always be true.

If you want to exclude hands where the 2bet was a steal raise you'll need an opponent filter which specifies that an opponent made a 2bet and didn't steal, so:

Any 2Bet AND NOT (Attempted Steal)
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