Give up and fold turn, and river Stat

[Masakik86]

Thank you!

Is there a way to make so its only counted if the person is OOP and one for IP?

Is this suppose to show the times a player,

Check/folds, when they are Out of position.


So for example:

Player A: Cbets Flop 70% of the time, check folds 20%, and check raises/calls 10%

The stat will show up as 20%

[Masakik86]

When Player is oop

% of the time player did not Cbet flop and folded on flop

Wouldn't that be something like what I originally had

first column

sum(if[(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp and not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet)) AND (cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_fold), 1, 0]

2nd column

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp, 1, 0])


Stat

(total gave up / total opp) *100

This sounds right to me no?

[kraada]

Your columns that you're defining here don't take position into account - you can do that via the HUD Editor by changing the Item Property for Has Position (which you'll see as long as you have the Category Flop assigned to your stat), or you can do it in the stat directly by using not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_has_position). Regardless, your opportunities column is insufficient for this stat - you are just counting times you could cbet. That's doesn't mean you actually had a chance to fold - you need to either not cbet and face a bet or cbet and face a raise if you're going to have a chance to fold. Otherwise you'll be including things like where you cbet and they fold as a chance for you to fold . . . and that's going to massively skew your results.

[Masakik86]

sum(if[(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp and not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet)) AND ((cash_hand_player_statistics.cnt_f_call > 0 or cash_hand_player_statistics.cnt_f_raise > 0 or cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_fold)) AND not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_has_position) AND cash_hand_summary.cnt_players_f=2 , 1, 0]

Just let me try and understand what this means

cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp and not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet)
sum of (Player had opportunity to f cbet and did not fcbet) and (folded on the flop and nothing else) and (did not have position) and (pot with only two players)


2nd column

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp AND not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_has_position) AND cash_hand_summary.cnt_players_f=2, 1, 0])

Sum of all the opportunities player had to cbet flop, and did not have position and was two players

stat = 1st column / 2nd column


Because I need to know exactly how many times he check/folds instead of cbets flop

DO NOT need to know how often he folds when he checks. (Fold to float bet)


For example if Player A:

Sum of first column is 5

He had 40 opp to Cbet

(5 / 40) x 100 = 12.5

So player A ends up check/folding the flop (OOP) 12.5% of the time.

What am I do wrong here? Hmm, also doesn't take into account that player has to face a bet when checked though hmmm. The problem with poker, the unknowns.

[kraada]

(cash_hand_player_statistics.cnt_f_call > 0 or cash_hand_player_statistics.cnt_f_raise > 0 or cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_fold)

means that the player faced some kind of bet or raise - not that he folded. For just folding you want just flg_f_fold. Your first column is what you want in the denominator of your fraction. Replace the above bit with just flg_f_fold and then you'll have your numerator.

[Masakik86]

1st Column

sum(if[(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp and not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet)) AND (cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_fold) AND not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_has_position) AND cash_hand_summary.cnt_players_f=2 , 1, 0]

Should I add AND not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_raise)

Because, I don't want there a chance for it to count a check raise?

[kraada]

You could add that if you want but check/raise/folding is exceedingly rare and is not likely a real situation to worry about.

[Masakik86]

Thank you!

[COKE_MAN]

Pardon my intrusion here, but how is what you are asking for not a fold to turn float stat? They way I always understood the PT definition of a float bet would be that the flop aggressor(OOP) checked his turn cbet opportunity and the player in position bet. So folding to that bet seems to be what you are after.

Am I misusing the PT float definition? I hope not, I use the Fold to Float stats for each street aggressively.

[kraada]

There are a few nuanced differences but for the most part in most games the differences will be minor - the built in float definitions on turn and river require you to be the last aggressor on the last street, not to have actually made a continuation bet (requiring the aggression preflop all the way through). So you might still want this custom stat - but in most games when I last tested, these work out to be very similar.