Saw flop stat and float bet stat question

[Suboptimal88]

Look through the filters tutorial - you can make complex OR statements as well to do exactly what you want.

i checked the tutorials , i have tried a lot of stuff but its impossible , you cant remove the *hands won* without removing them from the hand total of this particular action.

I use this filter , *Raise first in and maximum 2bet raise preflop and not saw flop* , now i need to add to this the total hands i raised first in without adding the hands i won with those extra hands , if i use something like , OR first raise in and NOT player won with those extra hands then it wont simply remove the hands i won but it will remove those hands from the hand total of the particular action. I dont know if you understand what i mean , my english are bad and i cant explain it well.

For example the hud stat first raise success is as follows: 2916/5706 51% thats the correct percentage

The filter with this *Raise first in and maximum 2bet raise preflop and not saw flop* is 2916/2916 , I can add to this *OR hands i lost* and it will turn to like 2916/4600 or some sort

Now there are like 1100 hands where i won the pot postflop or with a 4bet , i need to add these hands to the 4600 total quantity but not to the 2916 total quantity of hands i won with so it will turn 2916/5706 , how can i do this?

[kraada]

I guess what I'm confused about here is what you're trying to accomplish with the filter. If you want to see the full stat's value just add it into a report without any filtering.

If you want to see it from all times you actually raised first in you just want the Raise First In filter - and it will still match. Once you start filtering further down like to saw flop or cbet opportunity or whatever else it's going to affect which hands make it to the stat and thus the percentage would change -- but this is intended and exactly what you would want. Otherwise it would be impossible to get an answer to a question like "what's my raise first in success when on the button" -- you want it to actually filter to all and only button opportunities there, and that's what it will do.

[Suboptimal88]

I guess what I'm confused about here is what you're trying to accomplish with the filter. If you want to see the full stat's value just add it into a report without any filtering.

Filters are faster and easier to customize than stats , i just wanted to see if i can achieve the same result with them instead of creating new stats,columns etc...it seems i cannot , well i can at least take the total hands i raised from another filter and find the percentages myself or use the report like you said which means i have to create new stats if they dont exist.

Anyway , one last question , the 3-bet preflop success stat when you see it by position , does it tell that you 3-bet someone in that position or you made the 3-bet from that position? for example lets say button has x% , does it mean i raised that x% against button opens or i made the 3-bet from the button?

[kraada]

It depends on the filter you add - if you filter for active player on the button, it'd give you data from all and only hands you were on the button.

[Suboptimal88]

It depends on the filter you add - if you filter for active player on the button, it'd give you data from all and only hands you were on the button.

No this is not a filter , this the 3-bet preflop success stat on by position report.

[kraada]

When you put it on a by position report the rows for each position effectively filter by that position (because hands from other positions are sorted into different rows).

[Suboptimal88]

So if the report says 55% 3-bet success on button then it means all the times i raised from that position right? i want to enter the stat on the report then i want it to tell me how much the players of the chosen stake raise or w/e from each position against me , is it possible? I want to see when i raise how much someone from a certain position reacts to me instead of a total average of the rest of players , this would be great for sngs because you really need accurate calling ranges for each position separately. is it possible?

[kraada]

To do all of that you would need a few custom statistics - especially for the versus hero portion. See this guide for the basics on custom statistics creation and this guide for a deeper walkthrough. The latter was written for PT3 but the techniques all apply to PT4, the interface is just slightly different. And see this thread for more on how to make vs hero statistics.

[Suboptimal88]

I have checked the guides , i know how to create stats , i have created a lot of them so far and they work , there are not vs hero stats though so i dont know where to get an idea to create some , anyway i checked the site about vs hero stats , the columns on the first page are supposed to do exactly what i ask ? show me how much i get 3-bet from each player separately or the total i get 3-bet? i think i need to create hero vs *specific position* stats , i dont understand english well therefore im not sure , these column may work as a base to lead me there but i tried to create the stat on the site and it doesnt work , it couldnt be cached and it doesnt appear on the report even thought it got validated. any ideas?

[kraada]

Vs Hero stats cannot be cached using the method in that thread, but they do work.