HUD player stats based on position

[ffrllc]

In 6 max games some players play very different based on their position in the hand while others don't change based on position as much. A very tight UTG player might play completely different from the cut off while another player with the same "overall" numbers might be playing almost the same from UTG as they do from the cutoff. In this example, the first player's UTG action should be respected more and late position action respected less. While the second player's UTG action wouldn't mean any more then his action from any other position.

What I'm trying to say is that the HUD numbers help as an overall guide, but if there was an option to change the players stats based on the players' position, I think the numbers would be MUCH more precise as to what this player is capable of from that position.

For example if we were to select this "positional based HUD" option, the players HUD numbers would be changing each hand based on their position in that hand. Typically a players HUD numbers would go from tighter to looser as he goes from UTG to the button, but how those numbers change would tell you more about the type of hands he's capable of holding from which position based on that action.

Obviously you would need a large numbers of hands, but with datamining I don't think that's a problem. If it were an option, we could simply choose it or not.

I would LOVE this option (and some players I have talked to would as well) !!!

[Suerte]

i second this request. great idea.

[ChrisD]

I like this request too, but I'd probably just be more interested in VPIP/PFR numbers for all positions, rather than having the stats change. It would really take an awful lot of hands for the stats to converge (6 or 9 or 10 times as many hands!). Perhaps having an optional stat like "positional VPIP" so you could see their total VPIP and the positional VPIP for that hand.

Actually, now that I think about it, that wouldn't work either since PAHUD (afaik?) can't actually report on the current hand, only the last hand.

Regardless of implementation though, I do agree and think a lot of people would want to be able to see stats based on position, at least for VPIP/PFR.

[pokerpro]

I thoroughly agree with the prior posters.

At 6max in particular, positional VPIP/PFR would be a goldmine.

Yes, we can deduce whether an opponent are raising light (from ATS) in LP to steal blinds. But lots of activity in LP can mask minimal activity in EP. Does a raise from EP indicate a monster? That's why we need VPIP/PFR by position, like Holdem Manager provides. Otherwise, I will continue to get burnt raising someones KK in EP with my TT!!

Good thread.

[WhiteRider]

No new stats will be added to PAHud now that PT3 is available.

There is a free trial of PT3 available.
Download and install PT3.
Quick Start Guide
Documentation.


PT3 does not yet have positional stats by default, but Custom Stats for these are available in the Repository.

[pokerpro]

Fantastic stuff. Thank you WhiterRider.

Time for PT3 me thinks

[pokerpro]

How do I get the custom stats from the Repositary into PT3?

[WhiteRider]

You won't be able to do this in the trial, because you need to open the Configure Stats window, then on the Statistics tab you click Import.