In ,out possision

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Re: In ,out possision

Postby Beck » Sat May 09, 2009 8:34 am

WhiteRider wrote:
Beck wrote:I assume that the "facing a 3 bet" columns indicate only the preflop aggressor?
What if Player A raise, Player B calls, and player C reraises, is Player B then facing a 3 bet? Or if Player A raise, player B reraise, is player C then facing a 3-bet?
I tried to find the definition for these stats, but no luck (maybe just looked in the wrong place?)

Preflop, the BB is the 1-bet, Player A's raise is a 2-bet.
So in the first case, Player A faces a 3-bet; in the second case (when Player B reraises, i.e. 3-bets) Player C faces a 3-bet.
A player can face a 3-bet whether they already made any action or not.


Hmmm, I don't quite like the sound of that :)
So the initial "fold to 3bet"is based on whenever that player is faced with a 3bet in any situation?? Is it possible to make it only if he has allready acted (ie. the preflop raiser or player called the preflop raise, or maybe just limped, and now facing a 3 bet).
Otherwise I think the fold to 3bet is rather meaningless. Or am I misunderstanding something?

Sorry for beating a dead horse, but I want to make sure I get it right:

Lets say a 5 player table, Players S-B-1-2-3

If 1 raise, and 2 reraise, then 3, S and B are all facing a 3-bet?
If 1 raise, 2 calls, 3 reraises, then S,B,1 and 2 all faces a 3-bet?

Wouldnt that make all players fold to 3 bet insanely high?

I see there is a custom stat about facing 3 bet but only if player openraised. But doesn't openraise indicate that noone has limped before? Meaning that if 1 limp, 2 raise, then 2's raise isnt considered an openraise, since he wasnt first in the pot.
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Re: In ,out possision

Postby WhiteRider » Sat May 09, 2009 8:55 am

Beck wrote:So the initial "fold to 3bet"is based on whenever that player is faced with a 3bet in any situation?? Is it possible to make it only if he has allready acted (ie. the preflop raiser or player called the preflop raise, or maybe just limped, and now facing a 3 bet).
Otherwise I think the fold to 3bet is rather meaningless. Or am I misunderstanding something?

Sorry for beating a dead horse, but I want to make sure I get it right:

Lets say a 5 player table, Players S-B-1-2-3

If 1 raise, and 2 reraise, then 3, S and B are all facing a 3-bet?
If 1 raise, 2 calls, 3 reraises, then S,B,1 and 2 all faces a 3-bet?

Correct.

I see there is a custom stat about facing 3 bet but only if player openraised. But doesn't openraise indicate that noone has limped before? Meaning that if 1 limp, 2 raise, then 2's raise isnt considered an openraise, since he wasnt first in the pot.

I'm not sure exactly how that stat is built - aren't there a couple of versions of fold to 3-bet in the repository?
If there isn't one that does exactly what you want then you can duplicate and adapt one to make your own version that does exactly what you want.
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