better "fold to 3 bet" stat

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better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby Marquoz » Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:23 pm

I was wondering if we could get a more meaningful fold to 3 bet statistic? To give an example of how it currently works, if an under the gun player raises and UTG+1 then reraises, everyone after them who folds is counted as "folding to a 3 bet". That's not useful, since it massively inflates the stat for everyone at the table (and is standard play for all but superpremium hands). What I care about is when someone first RAISES and THEN folds to the 3 bet. That's an important stat, and one that has many implications (blind defense, for example).
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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby kraada » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:07 pm

You can build this yourself quite easily. See this thread for details.
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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby Marquoz » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:22 pm

Easily, if I understood the program better :-). I downloaded the little zip file you included in that thread, but I'm not sure where to put it in the PokerTracker folder. Mind pointing me in the right direction?
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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby WhiteRider » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:01 am

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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby Marquoz » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:35 am

Thanks, Rider, but I still don't know where to put the little zip file. When I try to open it with Notepad or Word, it looks like this:

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...and leaves me wondering what to do.
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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby kraada » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:52 am

Unzip the zip file, and click Configure --> Configure Statistics, go to the Stats tab, click the Import button and select the .pt3stat file. Click Import and PT3 will import the statistic into PT3.
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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby WhiteRider » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:22 pm

Sorry, I meant to tell you to extract it from the zip file first - I must have got distracted.. :oops:
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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby Marquoz » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:34 pm

Ah, that's how it works! I found a new stat after doing what you suggested, "Fold to PF 3 bet when raised" that is described as "Fold to Preflop 3Bet Percentage When Hero Open Raised And It Wasn't A Steal". That is very close to what I was looking for, and I've added it to my HUD and reports. Combined with "Fold Steal to Blind Reraise", I'm good to go. Many thanks.
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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby kraada » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:05 pm

You're welcome; enjoy!
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Re: better "fold to 3 bet" stat

Postby Marquoz » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:41 pm

Really enjoying/benefiting from the stat, guys. Thanks! I was wondering if you have an equivalent file I could import for tournament play?
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