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Wrong EV calculation

Postby elethandor » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:12 am

hello I noticed that in the following hand the EV was wrong calculated it.More specifically the EV went down decreasing to the same amount of the total decrement as if I went all-in with 0% of winning. Check the hand history:

PokerStars Hand #88187151801: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2012/10/25 10:42:53 CET [2012/10/25 4:42:53 ET]
Table 'Peacock IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: pacho0212 ($17 in chips)
Seat 2: robf90 ($17.01 in chips)
Seat 3: nul3m0 ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: repa070981 ($43.52 in chips)
Seat 5: sdufarn03 ($34.44 in chips)
Seat 6: swesda21 ($28.02 in chips)
Seat 7: Vidrik19 ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: luckyskills3 ($17.15 in chips)
Seat 9: rcc_badboy ($1.07 in chips)
rcc_badboy: posts small blind $0.10
pacho0212: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nul3m0 [Kd As]
robf90: calls $0.25
nul3m0: raises $0.85 to $1.10
repa070981: calls $1.10
sdufarn03: folds
swesda21: folds
Vidrik19: folds
luckyskills3: folds
rcc_badboy: calls $0.97 and is all-in
pacho0212: folds
robf90: calls $0.85
*** FLOP *** [2h Ah 9s]
robf90: checks
nul3m0: bets $2.25
repa070981: raises $40.17 to $42.42 and is all-in
robf90: folds
nul3m0: calls $21.65 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($18.52) returned to repa070981
*** TURN *** [2h Ah 9s] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [2h Ah 9s 8s] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nul3m0: shows [Kd As] (a pair of Aces)
repa070981: shows [6h 5h] (a flush, Ace high)
repa070981 collected $46.09 from side pot
rcc_badboy: shows [Ad Jh] (a pair of Aces)
repa070981 collected $4.33 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $52.42 Main pot $4.33. Side pot $46.09. | Rake $2
Board [2h Ah 9s 8s 7h]
Seat 1: pacho0212 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: robf90 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: nul3m0 showed [Kd As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: repa070981 showed [6h 5h] and won ($50.42) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: sdufarn03 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: swesda21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Vidrik19 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: luckyskills3 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: rcc_badboy (small blind) showed [Ad Jh] and lost with a pair of Aces


Any clue why?

Thank you!
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Re: Wrong EV calculation

Postby WhiteRider » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:12 am

In that hand there is an all-in which is called by a player who later folds. That means that we cannot calculate the equities accurately for the main all-in pot, so your "EV" here will match your actual result.
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Re: Wrong EV calculation

Postby elethandor » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:56 am

maybe you got it wrong but, at the flop there is an all-in a call of the all-in from nul3m0 (me) all the of the stack which then goes of course to showdown

Is there something I didn't catch?
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Re: Wrong EV calculation

Postby WhiteRider » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:59 am

"robf90" also calls the original preflop all-in and then folds on the flop. We don't know his cards, so we can't calculate the equities.
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Re: Wrong EV calculation

Postby elethandor » Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:45 pm

True but on the flop another EV calculation occurs for a specific pot with specific players. Isnt there another evaluation dependent on the new situation?
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Re: Wrong EV calculation

Postby guitarizt » Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:57 pm

PT won't calculate it because the player folding the flop taints the results.
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Re: Wrong EV calculation

Postby elethandor » Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:17 pm

ok thank you!
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