PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

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PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby KelvinKe » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:35 pm

As the title states, looking for PT4 to display various stats of individual hands for husng. Including bb/100 for each hand. Any suggestions on how to do this since I don't see this function under Statistics.

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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby kraada » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:43 pm

Choose the Summary report on the left hand sidebar then change the Group By box to "Starting Hands (Holdem)" and I think that's what you're looking for.
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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby KelvinKe » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:19 am

Thanks. Played around with that but couldn't seem to get it to work. Basically I'm looking to have a report to look similar to what PT3 had but with some additional details:

Attached:
starting hands.png


Where the report displays each individual hands once, shows the all-in adjusted BB and from which position (SB or BB) it was played from.

Would also be awesome if with PT4 I could take a hand that I have say x number of samples on, let's say we have 55 samples on KJs and do a further detailed analysis on just that one hand. And break down the 55 samples by effective stack depth, position it was played from (SB or BB), group it by preflop action from both SB and BB, see the all-in adjusted BB for each groups of action - i.e. display how profitable it was when we open jammed.

It's a lot to ask so I'd appreciate it very much if you could point me towards the right direction to how to get the above to work! Thank you!!
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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby kraada » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:37 pm

Were you able to find the Summary report? That is the one you want. You can then configure it to break things down by position by right clicking the report, choosing Configure Report and adding the Position stat - that will break it down so that you get one row per position. So since you play HU you'd see AA for SB and AA for BB separately. You can add Luck Adjusted win stats as well (that's what they all-in adjusted stats are called in PT4) and you'll see that data too.
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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby KelvinKe » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:42 pm

Thanks I see it now. Is it possible to custom a stat so it displays: All-in Adj BB/Hand.... and also All-in BB/Hand?

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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby kraada » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:41 pm

To make all in adjusted BB per hand click Configure -> Statistics and in the T Players Stats section, highlight the BB/100 version in the left hand side and click the Duplicate button. Change to the Definition page and change the Name, Title and Description as you want, then in the Value Expression remove the "/ 100" piece so that it's just over cnt_hands. Make the same change in the Format Expression and save your stat then it will be per hand.

I'm not sure what else you're asking for though, could you please elaborate on that?
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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby KelvinKe » Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:29 am

kraada wrote:To make all in adjusted BB per hand click Configure -> Statistics and in the T Players Stats section, highlight the BB/100 version in the left hand side and click the Duplicate button. Change to the Definition page and change the Name, Title and Description as you want, then in the Value Expression remove the "/ 100" piece so that it's just over cnt_hands. Make the same change in the Format Expression and save your stat then it will be per hand.

I'm not sure what else you're asking for though, could you please elaborate on that?

Thanks kraada, it works now. Having played around with it some more I came up with a few more Qs and wondered if you could kindly help out.

This is what my PT4 looks like right now after implementing all your above suggestions:
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The BB/hand and All-in-Adj BB/hand are stats that I duplicated/customised from BB/100 and All-in-Adj BB/100 by using your above suggestions.

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So my questions are:

Right now BB/hand and All-in-Adj BB/hand combines all of the variables of each hand (position, eff. stacks, type of decisions) in one number displayed in the top section of the attached file.

The bottom section of the attached file is currently displaying individual games/occurrences for the selected hand (from the top section). Instead of hands, is it possible to customize the ENTIRE bottom section to display the following stats:

- BB/hand for SB
- BB/hand for BB
- All-in-Adj BB/hand for SB
- All-in-Adj BB/hand for BB

Once we have those 4 new stats, can we create additional stats that display: BB/hand for Position (SB or BB) for Range of stack depths. Those effective stack depths are: 20-25bb, 17-19bb, 14-16bb, 10-13bb, 8-9bb, 0-7bb. 6 different eff. stack ranges and 4 positional variables. So I guess I will need to create 24 new customized stats. So I would have something like:

- BB/hand for SB at 20-25bb
- BB/hand for SB at 17-19bb
- So on and so fourth.

After that can we display the combined total of decisions for each of the above 24 customized stats. By decisions I mean limp, openshove, 3b shoving etc. So I would have something like:

- BB/hand for SB at 20-25bb when Hero openjammed
- BB/hand for SB at 17-20bb when Hero minraised/called shove

If all of the above is possible, then a simple version of the above new stats for any one hand will look something like:

BB/hand for SB // BB/hand for SB at 20-25bb // BB/hand for SB at 20-25bb when Hero openshoved
0.3 // 0.2 // 0.4

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That's a lot of stats to customize/create! I would appreciate any suggestions on creating them as well as any short-cuts to custmize/creating them.

Thanks a lot kraada!!
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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby kraada » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:38 pm

If you want to see things split up by position what you want to do is look at a By Position report or add the Position stat to the report. That will break things down and get one row per position.

If you're going to be adding and taking out that stat regularly you might instead be best off making a custom report on the My Reports page - if you add Position and Hole Cards they'll be broken down by position and hole cards and then you don't have to mess around with the defaults and can instead filter when you want to look for specific hands.

To split it into different stack depths you'll want to create a custom stat which groups by the stack sizes in the groupings you want. Take a look at how we do the grouping stat Flop Bet Size and its column val_f_bet_size and that should give you an idea how to proceed. For effective stack size you'd just want to use cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_effective_stack instead (and divide by cash_limit.amt_bb to get it in big blinds).
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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby KelvinKe » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:48 pm

kraada wrote:If you want to see things split up by position what you want to do is look at a By Position report or add the Position stat to the report. That will break things down and get one row per position.

If you're going to be adding and taking out that stat regularly you might instead be best off making a custom report on the My Reports page - if you add Position and Hole Cards they'll be broken down by position and hole cards and then you don't have to mess around with the defaults and can instead filter when you want to look for specific hands.

To split it into different stack depths you'll want to create a custom stat which groups by the stack sizes in the groupings you want. Take a look at how we do the grouping stat Flop Bet Size and its column val_f_bet_size and that should give you an idea how to proceed. For effective stack size you'd just want to use cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_effective_stack instead (and divide by cash_limit.amt_bb to get it in big blinds).

Thanks Kraada. I understood the 1st 2 points. But having trouble with your last paragraph on creating the custom stat by stack sizes. I can see the stat Flop bet Size and val_f_bet_size under Value Expression. But I'm pretty much lost after that, not really sure how to proceed. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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Re: PT4 to analyze particular hands for HUSNG

Postby kraada » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:41 am

There are two steps - first you need to make your new column. Go to the Columns page and look at val_f_bet_size. The first step is to make a version of that which does what you want.

The way this works is it tests each condition and gives a value if it's true. It starts:
if[not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_bet), 0, if[cash_hand_player_statistics.val_f_bet_made_pct <= 25, 1, if[

So if the player doesn't bet the flop, we get a value of 0. If he bet less than or equal to 25% of the pot, we get a value of 1, and so on. You can see in the description below what they all do. Your first step is to make something that assigns a value to each group you want.

So for example:
"if[(cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_f_effective_stack / cash_limit.amt_bb) <= 10, 1, if[...."

Would start out by assigning a value of 1 when the stack is less than or equal to 10BB. You want to assign groups so that everything is divided however you like. Then at the end you need enough ]s to match and you need a last number (see how it is in val_f_bet_size).

Then you go to the stat once you have this column (you can name it whatever you want).

In the stat Format Expression you test the value of the column and then print out pretty results. So using my above snippet you might start:
if( this = 1, format('<= 10BBs Eff.'), if(....

What goes in the single quotes in the format() part is what you see in the report.

I hope that clarifies a bit further?
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